On 05/06/2021 14:50, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 10:02:07 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

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Western Enlightenment thought placed a great emphasis on truth telling,

Most 'decent people' put emphasis on that as well. I don't lie because
1) I don't need to and 2) my memory isn't good enough to pull it off
if I was to try.

but other cultures have often placed more emphasis on winning than being
truthful.

Yup, we call then trolls (and some self appointed 'philosophers').

You are very definition a troll, go look it up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
A "posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic
messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room,
or blog), with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional
responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion."

Lying to infidels is a moral duty in Islam.

So you say.

Seem to be true of fanatical vegans.

Marxist thought defends the principle of the end justifying the means
which is why all leftards lie routinely.

Interesting that you looked into it all. Personally I'll stick to just
telling the truth.

Trump believed he was telling the truth too. You and Trump have much in
common.