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Commander Kinsey wrote:
You have to wonder how far we would be today if religion
had not impeded science.

You've pre-loaded the statement; since it is reasonable to
believe
that at least in some cases religion has impeded science, is is
only
natural to make the follow-on assumption that science would
have
been
further advanced. Well, unless the impediment was somehow such
that
it
slowed science so as to avoid some sort of science based global
catastrophe; perhaps a nuclear war at a time when people were
less
averse to mass slaughter and less aware of the global
consequences.

A more neutral question might be somthing along the lines of:

"You have to wonder whether religion has, overall, been a
help
or hindrance to scientific advance."

A bit of both, in my opinion, and which is more dominant
depends
a lot on how widely - or how far back - you cast your
viewpoint.

Why are you concentrating on disasters?

He isnt.

I just mean that advances like satnav might have happened 20
years
earlier,

Don't buy that. Satellites had nothing to do with religion, it
was
WW2 and the V2 and von Braun that produced that eventually.

and by now we could have been on mars.

Again, nothing to do with religion, that
was actually driven by the cold war.

Surely you must agree that people refusing to believe the earth
goes
round
the sun for 100 years slowed down advances in physics?

No it didn't. The most it did was waste a lot of time trying
to explain what we saw with the movement of the planets.

Shutting up or even killing those who make discoveries simply has to
slow
down science.

Only that bit of science they were shut up or killed about and it
didn't
really do that
either with that question of whether the sun revolves around the
earth
or
the reverse.

But you can't rotate the earth around heaven, that makes no sense to
the
religious nuts.

And like we keep telling you, the professionally religious with lots
of spare time on their hands because they were parasites on society
were in fact responsible for lots of the really useful advances in
real
science too. Most obviously with Mendel and Darwin.

I'm surprised Darwin wasn't burned at the stake.

You poms had stopped doing that more than a century before that.

We're only poms if we move to Australia.

Nope, true of new zealand and south africa too.

It's from pomegranate, rhyming slang for immigrant.

That's just one theory and we don't do rhyming slang here.

They were still blowing brown people away from the guns in his time
tho.

What's wrong with that?

Can get messy if you get too close.

Most people are racist, hence same-race marriages are the most common.

That's not the reason for that.

What is then?

They come into contact with far more of their own race.

Same reason so many marry those they have come into contact with at work.