On 5/17/2021 8:13 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:27:05 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 09:23:05 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 8:37:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2021 15:53:25 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:
On 5/16/2021 8:42 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 6:56:48 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
DerbyDad03 writes:
On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 3:30:11 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
Actually 40 years ago one of our car salesmen rolled a new Toronado 1=20
mile from the dealership. It burned after he got out, the steering=20
wheel was not a normal shape.

The deformation of a steering wheel caused by heat would not be the same
deformation as caused by impact.=20

And the Tesla Model S has at least two types of steering wheel;
the Yoke style may look deformed to someone expecting a standard
round steering wheel.

Once again you've proved that all you are doing is reading these posts
and slamming them without having done any actual research.

I'm pretty that sure that Teslas vice president of vehicle engineering,
Lars Moravy, would not be "expecting a standard round steering wheel."

He was the one that said the company found the steering wheel of
the vehicle to be deformed.



And more speculation, the crash was at 30 mph.
One would think that if there was some one in the drivers seat that the
air bag would have gone off and prevented the driver from deforming the
steering wheel. And the vehicle was not to be badly damaged from the
crash so much as from the fire.
Don't be so sure about that. I've been in a similar accident. Even
though the airbags went off and the driver (me) uninjured, the
steering wheel was pretty well bent towards the dash (way towards). If
you're holding onto the steering wheel you, and your arms, go forward
to meet the airbag. The hands are still gripping the steering wheel,
so it takes a beating. Steering wheels are designed to deform and the
columns collapse for exactly this reason. Airbags help but only keep
you in the vehicle and your torso away from other solid objects. The
arms aren't restrained at all. Take a look at a crash dummy test
sometime. It's ugly.

Well, that supports everything I've said about the Tesla steering wheel.
Except the part about telling the difference after that fire.

Neither you nor I know that answer. *Something* led the VP of Engineering
to speculate that the wheel was deformed by the driver. They actually saw
the vehicle.

That something was very likely damage control PR.


Could just be CYA, but the deformation that they (the company) found indicated
the "likelihood that someone was in the drivers seat at the time of the crash."

It is very possible that it was physically deformed by the driver and then
thermotically deformed by the fire. I further submit that those 2 different
types of deformations will be detectable by the investigators.

(I'm glad you didn't get hurt).

The airbags just may have saved my life. I'm on anticoagulants and a
good bump to the head isn't healthy.

I was really sore the next day but noting like when I was in a full
speed rear-ender on an I94 in Minneapolis in my brother's bug. That
time the steering wheel was fully bent the other way.