On 17/05/2021 17:29, T i m wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 15:52:31 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

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Hopefully good news (and there will be plenty of more of that to
come).

Why?

Because it seems it's the only way we can get some people to stop
causing animals to suffer

I'm not sure how this bill will work this way. Do let us know.

and die unnecessarily?

Those event are rare. Slaughter is necessary to create meat as part of a
balanced diet.

I doubt there are many for who this must be some kind of news! (even
thick people can normally spot the difference between a pig and a brick.

What they don't seem able to do is spot when they are supporting the
suffering, exploitation

You admit you don't care about animal welfare while an animal is alive

and death

A necessary evil in feeding the nation.

of sentient creatures and hence the
need for the education and outreach.

Quite, vegans should be educated forcing a vegan diet onto children will
stunt their brain development.

They *think* that cows need
milking *anyway*, that chickens lay eggs *anyway* so we can just take
them if we want and pigs exist just to give us bacon.

No, we think they are milked to provide milk, a substance we have
evolved to digest into adulthood and we farm pigs for their pork and bacon.

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean everyone must become vegetarian?

No, because that means we aren't recognising the sentience and so
rights of egg laying chickens or cows.

Nonsense.

Perfect sense.

It doesn't and it's myopic to think otherwise.

You may well think you chicken qualifies for entry to Mensa,

Grow up.

We have, and we have evolved to digest milk, and farm animals for our
food supply.

but that
does not stop you enjoying an egg with your bacon.

The thought that an animal *will* have to suffer (because they do) for
my pleasure is enough to stop millions of us from 'enjoying' such
things.

That's the point, the animal doesn't have to suffer. Humane slaughter is
possible, it just needs more support to accomplish. You won't give
yours, will you?

(Never seen a cow egg - so will skip those!)

Yes, it might be best for you as we will have to start testing your
supposed ethics skills again. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

p.s. I just saw something on the TV about the seal culling in the 70's
(?) and they were doing it because it 'impacted on the fish stocks'
meaning there wasn't so much for us (FFS)! The likes of Greenpeace
raised the awareness, people protested and the process was stopped.

The sheer arrogance of killing innocent creatures to deny them their
only foodstuff, when we have supermarkets full of other foods we can
eat.

It was successful because baby seals are nice cuddly creatures.

It's nearly as sick as this form of early indoctrination and
de-sensitisation to how badly we exploit other creatures:

It's not as sick as forcing a vegan diet onto children to stunt their
brain development.

https://ibb.co/wcMQjvn

That's right, we have evolved to keep farm animals and evolved a gene to
digest milk.