"John Rumm" wrote in message
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On 12/05/2021 11:36, NY wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650
Li
Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps
from
one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

Don't ever take any medicine, then. As even when approved will have
serious side effects with some.

Just carry on hoping you won't be one of those killed or maimed by
Covid.

The developers of the Covid vaccines are in an invidious position: either
they shorten the product-testing process to get the vaccine out as
quickly as possible (with extra risks or side effects) or else they apply
the full Committee on Safety of Medicines clinical trials process and are
criticised for taking too long.

What people seem to miss is that although the testing took far less time
than typical, all the usual testing stages were completed, and in many
cases with much larger third stage trials than would usually be carried
out. What was different this time, was there was adequate money available
(underwritten by the tax payer) which meant the developers did not have to
worry about the costs, or worry about "wasting" money on trial stages if
it turned out they had to abandon a product mid way through the trials.

And lots of virus around so the phase 3 trials were very easy to do.

Nothing is "100% safe". There are always risks. As always in life, you
need to be aware of the risk:benefit ratio and make a decision
accordingly. And when any side effects are reported, they should be set
in the context of the equivalent risks of a) doing nothing, and b) taking
other unrelated products. I believe that the risk of blood clots with one
of the vaccines is significantly less than that for smoking, taking oral
contraception and other normal lifestyle activities.

Indeed... same applies to things like blood clots *caused* by Heparin (an
anti clotting drug). Its known there are very rare cases where it can
actually can cause clots. It is still used routinely by the NHS because
there is a massive nett benefit overall, with many fewer casualties.