On 11 May 2021 at 11:02:38 BST, "T i m" wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2021 06:55:34 +0000 (UTC), RJH
wrote:

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Gotcha - I didn't know they'd eat the eggs. I see now that I was causing harm
by denying the hen its eggs to eat.

I wouldn't go as far as to say 'you were causing harm' as that sounds
like you were doing so knowingly and most people don't *realise* what
they are doing inadvertently when they buy / support such things.

Well, I wasn't exactly cheering them up if they were expecting to eat the eggs
after a few weeks. Especially if they weren't too fond of whatever else was on
offer. 'Tis an interesting thought though.



Of course they wouldn't be alive without my intervention but that's another
discussion.

Quite, Chicken / egg. ;-)

I do find that difficult. I could have just left them to die
(foxes). I think my sister's rage would have been my main concern I'm afraid
:-)

https://ibb.co/DDtNBCx

No, and no one would suggest that's what we should do with a rescued
chicken but there are in between things. Like, nothing stopping you
'rescuing them' from certain death and keeping them more naturally on
your property, if you have such property to allocate to them. If you
don't (like getting a dog from the rescue), maybe you (one) shouldn't
try to help them?

Well, you don't get quite the reciprocity from a chicken (as a dog, say). And
if I wasn't after 'something back' to save the non-humans potentially living
with me from misery it wouldn't end well ;-)


The *best* and easiest way to help all of them is by not paying to
continue forcing them to suffer such things. Dairy consumption is down
40% in the UK and USA and that will mean that 40% fewer animals will
have to suffer.


I'd concede my view is largely informed by looking after some hens
for a few weeks - I don't really know what I'm talking about.

I would imagine you have done more and so got closer to these
intelligent and inquisitive social creatures than most and so see them
more than their body parts in 'a bucket' and covered in the bit that
most people *actually* crave, the dopamine and 'herbs and spices'.

They were 'free' to roam wherever they wanted,

Within some sort of constraints I'm guessing? I mean they couldn't
move out of the are completely to find somewhere *they* may find more
suitable?

They could wander out of the garden - and I think they did, but they always
came back.



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Cheers, Rob