Fredxx wrote:
On 28/04/2021 21:34, SH wrote:
On 28/04/2021 21:25, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 21:00:44 +0100, gareth evans
wrote:

On 28/04/2021 16:02, #Paul wrote:
gareth evans wrote:
This W10 new desktop facility is really getting on my tits,
[...]
Surely there must be some way of disabling this unwanted
and unnecessary facility??????????????????????

Install linux? :-)

... well, somebody had to suggest it...

I'd already said in another life that I'm getting more and
more ****ed-off with Microsoft that the next PC I go for will
be Linuxy

Before you commit in any way you can run Linux on your existing PC
from a DVD or USB drive and start to get a feel for it?

Whilst I have a few Linux only machines, I also have it dual boot
(with Windows) on some and on a couple on external / USB drive. If you
stick it on a 64G SSD in a USB3 external enclosure and in a USB3 port
on a PC / laptop it runs pretty quickly. Once finished you unplug it,
reboot and your PC is back as it was. ;-)

It is a good idea to have such a solution handy in any case, Linux
Mint is pretty good and user friendly.

https://linuxmint.com/

Cheers, T i m


Or you could download the linux ISOs and load them into Hyper V (as
local installation source) which is part of Windows so you can try
Linux from within the Windows 10 desktop?

You do have to turn off Secure Boot setting or Linux won't load within
Hyper-V

You can then delete the VM if you don't like that flavour of Linux or
if you do, ytou can thengo the whole hog and install linux on your
disk of choice and boot off that.

Another way is to download & create a LiveDVD/CD and boot off that but
it then is in Read only mode and does not write anything to your
physical disks

I've historically used VirtualBox. the Windows Sandbox doesn't provide
access to USB devices so that's a no-no for me.

Is Hyper V a good alternative to VirtualBox?

For Tim, VirtualBox does have some 'pre-installed' OSes.

Hyper-V requires EPT/SLAT on client PCs.
Hyper-V does not require EPT/SLAT on Windows server.

The difference is that the frame rate of gaming needs
some help, when Hyper-V is involved, and so EPT/SLAT
(Second Level Address Translation in hardware) is
a hardware requirement of the processor.

Hyper-V in Windows Features, won't install unless EPT/SLAT
is detected. EPT is the Intel name for it. SLAT is the AMD
name for it. I only have one PC in the house that can run
Hyper-V (today).

Microsoft pushed out a patch on Patch Tuesday, that
caused the frame rate of gaming setups to drop. Which...
naturally makes you suspicious of what they're up to
this week.

The problem is, Microsoft has decided they need "containerization"
for the OS. They use Hyper-V for WSL2, WSLg, VirtualBox 6 runs
under Hyper-V. Hyper-V will be used for various Defender features.
But, in order to widely deploy Hyper-V, they need to remove
the requirement for EPT/SLAT, without ****ing off gamers
who are running Windows 10. Now would a gamer be using
Windows 10 in the first place ? That, I don't know.

Paul