On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 12:37:05 +0100, Fredxx
wrote:

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- so maybe we shouldn't eat vegetables
either?

I can't remember all the health / nutrition / environmental bodies
recommending that?

we keep being told to wash fruit and veg before consumption.

Are we? Always? No, we are advised to rinse veg to wash off any soil
or other detritus but no making sure we 'wash our hands properly with
soap and water' after touching them.

6) Few would eat meat if they had to kill it themselves. This is
because it's 'out of sight, out of mind' (often in a window less
building in the middle of nowhere) and years of conditioning and not
aligning their actions with their morals. They provide safe passage
for a hedgehog but then eat a rabbit (unless you are Tyson Fury).

You don't clear the sewers out, you don't man the refuse lorry - there
are hundreds and thousands of things we don't do ourselves and depend
on others to do.

How many of those other jobs take lives though?

The only one I can think of is an executioner.

Yes, we have already covered that, they are called 'slaughtermen'.

It doesn't necessarily mean those things we don't do
are inherently bad.

No, but if you don't believe the unnecessary consumption /
exploitation of animals is our right (and I don't of course), a better
comparison of similar job roles to abattoir worker would be POW camp
executioner or a driver in 'Death Race 2000'. ;-)

You are welcome to your beliefs.

No beliefs involved (other than yours, thinking you are a god and have
full right over all animals).

If you want us to follow your lead

No, I don't want *you* to. I want you to eat all the red meat you can.

then
don't show yourself as a fanatic that nobody in their right mind would
want to imitate.

People 'in their right mind' see it for the passion and concern it is
(even if they don't agree with it personally). Only trolls see it as
anything else.

And can you please explain ... if the routine killing of animals was
'perfectly ok', why do many abattoir workers (and vets associated with
that field) suffer with a form of PTSD? Why do livestock farmers
(even) give up their jobs and give their livestock to a rescue rather
than having them slaughtered?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-50986683

I couldn't work at heights.

What has that got to do with a job where killing *is* the job?

Some jobs aren't made for us.

I would suggest few jobs are made for us (especially you), and in your
case, that includes the hypocrisy of eating animals but not being able
to kill what you eat.


We aren't just talking about what many might consider 'unsavoury'
jobs, (sewer cleaner etc), we are talking about jobs that are
considered to be partaking of immoral acts by an ever growing number
of people as humanity evolves and improves (often too late and too
long of burying their head in the sand, as with plastic pollution
etc).

Are you now criticising sex workers?

Am I? That directly involves death as part of the main job does it?

Even if we were to consider the sheer number of animals that die
necessary (eg. by people have been living as ethical vegans for many
(thousand) years) we are also likely to suffer from 'Psychic
numbing'.

We all become numb at some point following an event.

And? What has that got to do with the specific function of 'Psychic
numbing'

Like the death of a
loved one.

No, if your entire village was killed it might be.

It is something you live with and accept.

As a strawman.

Of course some
can't move on and need help.

Irrelevant.

They sometimes start a crusade and seen as
a pariah to those around them.

WTF are you wittering on about now troll?

We see a dead fox by the side of the road and most people would be
upset (especially if it was not externally 'damaged'. We might be made
to feel sick if it's guts were hanging out (yet we buy and eat 'guts'
from the butcher?)).

We see a heap of 10 dead foxes by a hunt HQ and we might be *slightly*
more upset. We aren't 10x more upset.

We see a lorry with 10,000 fox fur pelts and we may not be upset at
all (vegans would of course because we understand the holocaust that
created such).

The same things applied to the Nazi death camps (assuming the guards
could cope themselves and why they invented the gas chambers of
course) and is happening with Corona virus:

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-de...bf8fe07d9.html

Bringing up that old chestnut is the very definition of a failed argument:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

And dragging out that old chestnut is the sure sign of the lack of
anything relevant to the point, troll.

(I do love the assumption that you have figured something out by
yourself, yet got it 100% wrong, is the confirmation of anything!).

You are *just* a sniper using bollox for ammunition.

I suggest you look up 'Physic numbing' *then* come back to me (if you
must. You shouldn't have to as the point should get into your thick,
troll, skull).

Cheers, T i m