On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 17:07:12 -0400, J. Clarke
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:42:15 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 18:17:22 +0000, Spalted Walt
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 19:40:02 +0000, Spalted Walt
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:59:07 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
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It's OK, my daughter and her partner will just dig deeper into their pockets to buy
basic supplies for their students. Then they can load the supplies into their cars
and drive to school on the crappy roads that didn't get repaired because we all
protested our assessments to lower our county taxes.

It has nothing to do with supplies or anything else tangible. There
is no interest in teaching kids anything. The purpose of "education"
is to enrich unions (not teachers) and indoctrinate (not teach)
children. Answer me this - why is civics no longer taught, when
"Heather has Two Mommies" is? Or, how our mathematics scores are
among the lowest in the western world, and getting worse. Speaking of
"western world", why is that such an evil thing in education today.

+1

Children are our future. Indoctrination has always been a vital element
with every Communist revolution. By far the worst mistake this country
has made yet was not guarding our children from the leftists agenda sooner.



Facts are scary - to those who have such hard-felt "beliefs" -
but facts matter ...

Look at the 24 countries ranking better than good 'ol US of A
and decide which of those are .. just a little bit more socialist ..

https://factsmaps.com/pisa-2018-worl...ience-reading/

So, if the "good 'ol USA" was "just a little bit more socialist" we too,
could climb up the list... OK. Got it.

Except, back in the '60s, I'm pretty sure the "good 'ol USA" was near the
top of the 'list' (certainly in the top 5), yet we were inarguably far less
"socialist" than we are now. So yea, John "facts matter".


You're using beliefs and opinions again ..
Without going back 60 years, I also suspect that the USA is
trending downward - but I'll stop short of blaming the teachers
or their unions for everything that is wrong with the system.
John T.

Between 1900 and 1975 the US managed to invent and bring into
production the airplane, nuclear power, computers, and the capability
to land on the Moon.

With the people born in the '30 and '40s. The millenials live in
mommy's basement and play X-Box. We were talking about 60 the last 60
years.

It also turned the automobile from a toy for the
elite to transportation for everyman, put a TV in nearly every house,
and made food available at reasonable prices in bewildering variety,
started rolling out cell phones, and invented the microprocessor. Oh,
and incidentally defeated the Nazis and the Japanese at more or less
the same time.

Designed by people schooled in the 60s and 70s. Engineering types.
Not Black-Female-Trans-middle-ages-English majors. All that crept
into STEM. In fact, it's now called "STEAM" to deprecate the
sciences.

This was all done by the products of an education system that was
according to the professors badly broken and needed to be fixed with
massive influxes of Federal money. So the Federal money started in
1958--the first products of this new and improved education system
would have graduated around 1970. So what have they done for us? They
expanded the cell netork, finished Arpanet, and continued development
of the microprocessor, and produced bigger and better games. Oh, and
they have managed to drag the world back kicking and screaming to the
days when a computer was something that you paid by the hour to use.

Perhaps '70s but, again, it filtered from the liberal schools into the
sciences about then. I was at the beginning ('70-'74) of that
nonsense in the Engineering curriculum. It's now complete.

There is some light but one wonders why it took somebody from South
Africa to turn it on.

Huh?