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On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 9:01:57 PM UTC+1, Scott wrote:
On 20 Apr 2021 18:46:29 GMT, Tim Streater
wrote:
On 20 Apr 2021 at 16:57:25 BST, Scott wrote:

On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 14:13:57 +0100, Ian Jackson
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"Right turn on red" is another

This seems to me unacceptable for pedestrians, particularly anyone
with vulnerabilities or disabilities who expect to be able to cross
the road without worrying about moving vehicles.


You have *always* to give way to peds in the US, even if you have a green
light. At a RToR, you not only give way to them, but also to any cross
traffic.


Actually, the Highway Code says you have to give way to pedestrians
when turning right or left, which almost never happens. I would have
no confidence at all that this rule would be any more observed at
traffic lights.



Yes the rule is if the car is entering a side street then the pedestrian has the right of way. If the car is exiting the side street then the car has the right of way.

In Germany cars turning right at traffic lights (dont forget they drive on the right) have to give way to pedestrians who have a green light to cross. This eliminates that annoying traffic light phase where all traffic has to stop for a pedestrian phase, especially when there is no pedestrians waiting to cross as they all took their chance after pressing the button on the pole