Broadback wrote:
Lots of post on them but what do they cost
https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/r...-electric-cars
Smart EQ ForTwo hatchback
"£6,000 more than the previously available
petrol-powered Smart Fortwo"
priced from £16,850 | Autocar
Skoda Citigo e iV hatchback
"For the price of the base model - around £17,500
theres no other electric car that offers the same
breadth of qualities as the Citigo e iV."
SEAT Mii electric
"82bhp electric motor, 160 miles of range." see prev. item
About £20,300
MINI Electric hatchback
"starts at under £25,000. 145-mile range"
"Prices start at £24,400 (assuming the governments
£3,500 EV grant remains post-April)"
MG ZS EV SUV
"after the Government grant it dips below £25,000. 163 miles of range"
Peugeot e-208 hatchback
211 miles
"The 2021 e-208 price list kicks off at £26,725
for the Active Premium model (cost includes the
£3500 government subsidy)."
Renault ZOE
claimed 245 miles
"Starting from £30,995 after PCG £2500"
Honda e hatchback
137 miles
"its set to cost £26,500 after £3500 grant"
Nissan Leaf hatchback
40kWh battery, 168 miles
£25,995 after some grant
# This entry included as reference point
Tesla Model 3
Standard Range Plus 254 miles £43,490 (£37,340 including £3500 grant)
Long Range 348 miles £49,990
The Performance 329 miles £59,990 (silly and pointless, really)
It's really a matter of "what can you get away with".
You're pricing "cars for work", not "jolly in countryside"
Buying a Model3 LR implies an interest in driving
the countryside, in which case you start looking at
"Fast Charge" options. Note that the cars do not like
Fast Charging, they count the number of times you do it,
and to meet battery warranty, may unceremoniously
disable the feature when you're in the countryside
and plug into the Fast Charger. You have to research
the various car models, and see if obnoxious behaviors
are instituted by software. Cars work best, if charged
overnight on the home charger, at the "non-Fast" rate,
which is plenty fast for overnight. Overnight charging
implies a "Car for work" design.
Pcharge | /\_ === charger peak is quoted value,
| / \__ does not use peak for very long
| / \ A 345kW Taycan does not use 345kW!
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The price has some proportionality to the battery size,
but you can probably spot one of the items being slightly
off the best fit line. When you see that, it probably
means the specs are fabricated, or were annotated later.
The Model3 in China, uses Lithium Iron Phosphate, which should
halve the range and also do something to the price. The
rest of the world would use Lithium Cobalt.
You get better life from the batteries, by not charging
them to 100%. For example, buying extra range and not
using it, implies a larger number of charge cycles.
You would operate the car from 60% downto 0% charge,
rather than 100% downto 40%, which is harder on the battery.
When there is excessive range, you don't fill it all the
way up. When driving the countryside, you "splurge" by
filling it just before the trip starts.
The idea is silly... except when mandated by law or economics
(fuel taxes etc). We have a carbon tax here to improve
our thinking on the topic.
Charging at a filling station on the highway, costs 2X charging
at home. Charging at home is the economy solution. Damn that
"car for work" model.
Paul