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Default Astonishing Dyson puff piece on the BBC

On 14/04/2021 16:06, Robin wrote:
On 14/04/2021 13:38, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 April 2021 at 11:19:03 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Robin wrote:
On 14/04/2021 10:11, Clive Page wrote:
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Many of us know why Dyson is against the EU: it is because it
brought in
efficiency standards for vacuum cleaners which meant that his models
with 1500 Watt motors had to be phased out. Other manufacturers with
more efficient models had no problems. Dyson chose to make these
inefficient models in the far east from where they could be sold
anywhere in the world (now including the UK) except in the EU.


Are those claims about efficiency based on the same methodology that
the
ECJ found against in 2018?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8623591.html

ISTR Dyson being against the power figure as he thought it too high?
Higher than any of his models?

I could be wrong, of course.


I thought it was because they were measuring power used rather than
air-watts (which dyson preffered)
Â* which was suction power based.
Otherwise you could place a 1KW heater inside the cleaner and people
would think that you got 1KW worth of suction.

In which case I agree with Dyson.


Dyson's case against the EU was that it purported to tell consumers how
energy efficient and effective at cleaning a cleaner was in use when it
measured them only when clean and empty. Read the link I posted or the
press release from the final EU court

https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/jcms/p1_1430408/fr/

Bear in mind that big EU manufacturers are very much inside the tent
when the policy and technical details of such measures are prepared. All
of course with only the best interests of EU consumers in mind.


Was that an attempt at sarcasm?

What consumers wanted to know is what suck their vacuum clear has, and
that is best measured in air-watts. Possibly again with bags etc part full.

If that was done, there would be little need for inefficient motors and
would make dinosaur cleaners extinct.

The EU made sure that it was all a compromise and scam; where "the
policy and technical details of such measures are prepared" was dictated
by EU manufacturers.