On 06/04/2021 18:21, Tim+ wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/04/2021 17:04, Tim+ wrote:
NY wrote:
"Andrew" wrote in message
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On 06/04/2021 13:29, T i m wrote:


You press a pedal on the floor and the car goes faster and you press
another pedal on the floor, the car goes slower and press a third that
doesn't appear to much. ;-)


A Nissan Leaf allows one pedal to act as 'go' and 'stop' doesn't it ?.
This means you can hold the car on a slope without the handbrake.

Not sure if you put you foot under it and attempt to lift it that
the car goes backwards :-)

Having learned to drive on a car with at least two and preferably three
pedals, I would find it very difficult to get used to a single-pedal car,
where releasing the pedal completely applies the brakes.

Do let us know when you find one. As far as Im aware they dont exist.

I have got too used
to no pedals meaning the car coasts and I have to make a positive action to
apply more than token air-resistance/bearing-friction levels of retardation:
having to maintain *some* pedal pressure all the time to keep the car at a
constant speed would be very tiring on the foot.


I defy most drivers to be able *reliably* to change gear without using that
pedal that "doesn't appear to [do] much" ;-) Some cars are better than
others for doing clutchless gearchanges: my 13-year old Peugeot is dead
easy, and I think it always has been fairly easy even from about 20,000
miles when I got it. But my wife's 5-year-old Honda is a lot more fussy
about getting the speed very accurately the same - it is less forgiving. I
never try a clutchless change while she's in the car ;-)

Why would you bother other than as a €œparty trick€�? Its not good for your
synchromesh.

Its not bad for it either if you know how to match speeds

If you get it exactly right, I grant you its harmless but youre asking
your synchromesh to do a job it wasnt designed for. Do you always get it
*exactly* right?

Tim




I always knock my Astra into neutral without using the clutch, as I slow
down aproaching red lights or a junction or line of stationary traffic.

It's easy to recognise the situation where the engine speed and road
speed are in synch whe you are slowing down and going slower than about
20mph.

If the traffic moves off it is also possible to put it back into 2nd
gear while still moving at low speed without the clutch.