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On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 15:30:09 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
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On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 10:38:52 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 05:14:30 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
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The problem with your rant is if you are vaccinated you have all the
protection you will get. It still does not stop you from infecting
others so maybe they need to keep you away.

There you go again, spreading more BS, even though it's been explained
to you here many times now that this is not true.
That is not my bull****.
Vaccinated people can still spread the virus.

But the point you continue to totally miss is that the vaccine greatly
reduces
the number of people INFECTED. That in turn greatly reduces the spread.
Sure, some people who are vaccinated will still get infected and could
still
spread it. That doesn't mean that the vaccines are not enormously
successful
in stopping the spread of Covid.

Tonight on NBC they are saying Moderna and Pfizer may only
be 90% effective in preventing infection in "real world situations".

Yes, but no vaccine is ever 100% effective, ****wit.

33 million infected people walking around sounds
like a lot to me, assuming 100% get vaccinated.

Yes, you actually are that stupid. If 100% do get
vaccinated, 33 million wont be infected, with that
effectiveness rate because the entire population
wont come into contact with the virus, ****wit.

If they are mutation farms as any host will be.

They cant be if they arent infected, ****wit.

How long will it be before they grow
one that the vaccines can't address?

That isnt true of any vaccine yet.

And even if that does happen, no reason why the
vaccines cant be tweaked to address that mutant.
And much more quickly than with the original
development of the vaccines, because there
will be no need to the full phase 3 trials then.

I understand their body might shrug it off as a minor bit of chest
congestion or something or maybe even totally asymptomatic

No might about it, thats been proven with the phase 3 trials to
be what happens. Thats why the vaccines have been approved.

but how about grandma?

The best of the phase 3 trials found
that is what happens with grandma.

Isn't that what we have been worried about all along?

That and other things.

Hey if you folks want to play "what if" with worst
case scenarios like you have been doing all along,

More of your bare faced lies.

I am just giving you another one.

Nope, you are actually flaunting your
complete pig ignorance, as always.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsl...read-the-virus
"Patients who have been vaccinated can certainly still contract
SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, and pass it on to others.
There are two reasons for that, says Matthew Woodruff, an immunologist
at Emory University."
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12...order-vaccine/
"Vaccinated people could still carry and spread the virus and should
continue to wear masks, practice frequent hand-washing and socially
distance until a majority of the population is inoculated, Krouse
said."

And I'm sure the part about "until a majority of the population
is inoculated, went right in one ear and out the other.

That assumes there won't be a more virulent strain growing
in those who remain infected in spite of the vaccine.

Nope, the data comes from places which have the more virulent strains.

If I want to create a mutation farm, nothing would be better than
millions of people who host and propagate the virus asymptomatically.

More utterly mindless stuff. The more virulent strains are
called that because they ARENT virus asymptomatic.

It will constantly be trying to defeat the antibodies in the person's
body. I young healthy person should be able to shrug it off. What
happens when they kiss grandma with their new super bug?

Her vaccination will prevent her getting infected most of the
time and that the worst result she gets if she does get infected
is like the common cold if she isnt asymptomatic too.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...ne/ar-BB1cMHJe
Dr. Fauci Said You Can Still Carry the Virus After Getting Vaccinated

"I do want to ask you about this new study overseas, this study of
British healthcare workers," said Today anchor Craig Melvin. "And it
found that folks with antibodies could still carry and spread the
virus. How worried should we be about our friends and family members
who've already had COVID-19?"
Fauci, for his part, has long said we'd still need to abide by public
health measures even after getting vaccinated, just in case.
"Obviously, with a 90-plus percent effective vaccine, you could feel
much more confident" that you won't get COVID-19, Fauci told CNN. "But
I would recommend to people to not abandon all public health measures
just because you have been vaccinated€¦.even though, for the general
population, it might be 90 to 95% effective," said Fauci, "you don't
necessarily know, for you, how effective it is."

And all that has gone in one ear and out the other many times now for you
too.

They are now saying a "real world" guess is 90%

Its not a guess, its a MEASURED RESULT ****wit.

(AKA 10% failure) rate. Glad I didn't believe 95%.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/covid-19-vaccines-90percent-effective-in-real-world-conditions-study-shows/ar-BB1f66v3

Of course that is the guess of the week.

Nope, a measured result. Thats what the word STUDY means.