On 10/03/2021 11:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/2021 09:20, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Jeff Layman
writes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56340077

Will this make any practical difference? If an SMD integrated circuit
goes wrong in a TV, will making the SMD itself available make the TV
"more repairable"? How much will it cost? How much would the complete
circuit board with SMD already fitted cost? Isn't the latter what's
done at present? It seems to me the manufacturers will just charge
what they see fit for the replacement part, no doubt with an
exorbitant P&P to cover "administrative costs".

Playing a green card without cost to the Govt?

Planned obsolescence has been a factor in maintaining employment for
so long, I can't quite spot where this is going.

It all stems from socialism.

Basically we can make a lot of material wealth. With remarkably few
people The problem is how to distribute it. Consumerism creates jobs and
allows the private sector to distribute the wealth instead of the
government being involved.

manufacture, supply, distribution sales, and marketing - all massive job
creation schemes that would be totally unnecessary without obsolescence.

What 'right to repair' does is shift a very few of these jobs to repairmen.

You seem to forget the issues regarding landfill, CO2 generation from
making new and not repairing old. It's our throw away society and you
are misguided to associate this with socialism.

Why socialism? Well its like renewable energy - the alleged aim is to on
Â*the one hand get wealth into peoples pawsÂ* and on the other, to reduce
carbon dioxide emissions, but teh method chosen becomes an end in itself
that doesnt really help., Instead of jut giving people decent stiff
free, or building nucler power stations, we end up 'creating jobs' or
'renewable energy'

It does help, as would building more nuclear power stations. The failure
is through allowing defective power stations to poison the environment
to put off the public. Your obsession doesn't help, any more T i m
promotes veganism through his fanatical views.

I see no virtue in work. Peole should stay at home and get paid for
doing so. And let the robots build decent stuff that doesn't need
replacing every few years.

I agree, there should be a national wage. Oldies get it and call it a
pension. Work should be a choice, where pay and keeping the lion share
of that pay as an encouragement to work.

Of course that's a socialist idea, where you would subject everyone to
draconian means testing.

We need to decouple wealth creation from 'work' once and for all.

So you can sit on your bum doing nothing? Wealth creation is all about
work with the aid of investment.

When a robot can build your house and cook every meal for you, then
perhaps you have a point.

Unreliable imports from Turkey used to prop up repair activities here?

Not many votes in telling manufacturers to give longer free guarantees?