"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 01/03/2021 19:20, Tim Streater wrote:
On 01 Mar 2021 at 18:48:46 GMT, John Rumm
wrote:

On 01/03/2021 08:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I simply don't bother with passwords at all. I wouldn't use an
inherently insecure device like a mobile phone for anything
important.

What make you think it is inherently insecure? Just the fact that it's
small, portable and easily stolen?

Apple's email client, for one thing. It will allow mails to phone home
(y'know, the 1x1 pixels jpegs to be downloaded when you read the mail).
OK,
you can tell it not to download *any* images, but there should be a
subtler
method than that.

Its inherently stealable,

But trivial to ensure that is no use to the thief
and impossible for the thief to do anything with
your data or banking and the reality is that ****
all of us have had their phone stolen.

and it is pwned by google or apple depending

Thats bull**** with apple.

And Ive worked enough as a system admin to know how easy it is to access
private data held on your employing companies servers, if you really want
to

But isnt with your phone.

Communications with it are secured to the same standard as those to a
desktop or server class machine. It's running a Linux kernel, and has
the option of biometric as well as conventional password restricted
access.

On a smartphone, you have to take what you are given. No possibility to
examine its innards in any way at all. No ability to organise anything to
your
own taste. Can't organise your documents, images, etc etc to suit
yourself.
All of which might be OK for simplistic usage but not for doing anything
real.

In order to access email at all, it has to store passwords. If it is
stolen then bang goes that.

More mindless bull**** with the best smartphone.

I don't believe that a screen lock will encrypt that data:

It does anyway with the best smartphones.

you can probably pull the memory card and read it

Nope, not with the best smartphones.

or root the phone if you nicked it:?

Nope, not with the best smartphones.

My response = assume it will be stolen/lost and all data on it will be
accessible to a third party

More fool you. You are 'living' in the past, as always.

and don't use it for anything critical

More fool you. You are 'living' in the past, as always.