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Default PHE says no flu at all



"Steve Walker" wrote in message
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On 26/02/2021 18:55, Fred wrote:


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On 26/02/2021 11:34, RJH wrote:
On 26 Feb 2021 at 11:28:07 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
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As ****ing IGNORANT as Frau Merkel refusing the Astra Zeneca jab on
the
grounds it 'doesn't work for over 65s'

Its British, it was there first, and has been rushed through tests
faster than any other vaccine and its efficacy is largely unknown
that's
all.

To spin that into 'its ineffective' and refuse it to dying Germans in
order to save face for an utter failure by the EU and by Merkel to
protect their citizens is simply unacceptable.

F Merkel needs to be dancing the Spandau ballet


Just a POI - she's parroting their scientific advice. As she should -
however
odd that advice might seem.

And unlike most politicians she does have a scientific/physics
background


And realises that the Oxford/AstraZeneca was never tested on the over
65s.


Which does not mean that it does not work,


Yes, but it does mean that it makes more sense
to use the Pfizer which was tested on those.

just that for safety during testing, they stuck to younger people. The
chances of it not working in older people or being dangerous are very slim
(they are still human),


But do have known deterioration in the immune response.
Thats why they get a stronger dose with flu vaccinations.

but it has not been proven to be as effective.


But the Pfizer has, so it makes sense to use that on those instead.

Still worth having as any protection helps


But it makes more sense to use the Pfizer on
those and that is precisely what they have done.

and there are insufficient alternatives to vaccinate everyone with other
vaccines.


We arent talking about everyone, just the over 65s.

Australia has done the same thing, use both
for the groups they are most appropriate for.

It is looking like regular vaccination may be necessary anyway,


Thats not known yet.

so at least partial protection and then later re-vaccination is better
than just waiting.


We arent talking about just waiting, we are talking
about using the Pfizer vaccine instead for that group.