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On 25/02/2021 18:03, Rod Speed wrote:
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On 25/02/2021 16:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-

latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to
them ?

Why would being anti-vax or anti mask have anything to do with
Nigel Farage

I think Jethro is confusing an anti-lockdown policy with
anti-vaxxer and anti-mask wearers.

I have just signed the petition requiring only those vaccinated to
be allowed in shops and pubs when lockdown ends,
That would be hard on those who cant be vaccinated
for medical reasons and there are some of those.

Very few, and I would expect with medical issues stopping them
visiting pubs and shops.

As with any legislation there are always justified exceptions.

so I'm wondering what group Jethro is trying to abuse with Farage's
name?


Totally illogical. If you have been vaccinated what have you to fear?

that I'm in the 5% for which it isn't effective

Look at the "two-jab" for inspiration.

The first jab is "hey, wake up in there".

The second jab is "have you seen this before ? OK. React vigorously."

Whether your body is trained by a second jab, or is
trained by the real virus entering the body and
training you, the asymptotic result is you're (gradually)
making better responses to it. You may get sick. But
not as sick as the last time. Or not as sick as ever.

Our bare minimum definition of success is "keep people
out of the intensive care unit and off those ventilators".
That's a start. For all the progress we've made on
improving the ability of people to survive, they're
still using ventilators. That hasn't stopped.

But eventually, we have to keep COVID out of people, period,
because look at the mess it's making of the "long haulers".
People who have survived the virus, who are mentally
confused and don't seem to be improving on their own.
It damages more than lungs and toes... And long term,
we can't afford to be generating a large pool of invalids.

In that sense, "survival" is not the same as with seasonal flu.
With seasonal flu, say ten weeks later, you're usually your
old self again. That's not necessarily the case with COVID.
Yeah. you're alive. But you're not yourself, either. Most
of the long haulers interviewed, are concerned they'll
never be fixed properly (which might well be true).

So long term, we need to do a better job than just
"keeping people alive but miserable". Preventing the
health care system from being crushed, that's the "low bar"
definition of success. And that seems to be what the
vaccination gives so far.

There was yet another variant in the news yesterday.
Properties - unknown. Not enough data yet.

Paul