"Rod Speed" wrote:

Only the woman can make the decision about abortion,

Wrong, as always. The state does too.

Maybe you like the state making personal
decisions for you, not everyone feels that way.

Most do with crimes like murder for some odd reason.

And with what happens with the child after
it is born too, again for some odd reason.


You're just comparing irrelevant things. Abortion before the child is
viable isn't murder, nor are laws to protect children relevant to
abortion.


but she is free to talk to the man about
it before and after the child is conceived.

And he is free to be included in the
decision on murdering the child.

It's not murder,

Corse it is when the child is killed.


It's not a child until it's viable outside the womb.


and the man's input is only as
relevant as the woman makes it.

Wrong, as always.


Tell that to the lawmakers, who agree with me.


The man can talk to her about what she'd do if she
becomes pregnant, before agreeing to have sex with her.

But there is no guaranteed that the circumstances won't change,

Yep, well, then don't have sex.

Or use contraception.


That's not 100% effective, the conversation about pregnancy needs to
be had when heterosexuals have sex. If the man is in too much of a
hurry to ****, he forfeits any input he might've had on what would be
done about pregnancy.


If he fails to do that, and she aborts his child, that's
what he gets for being so obsessed with sex.

There is no obsession involved.

Sure there is, he couldn't keep his pants on long
enough to talk about the consequences of having sex.

Mindlessly silly and if this **** is the best you can
manage, there isnt any point in discussing it with you.


Feel free to shut the hell up, then, it's not like I have nothing
better to do than argue with your idiocy.


That's on him.

Why just him ? That's sexist.


Because that's the point at which he would have input. Once she's
pregnant, he no longer does, unless she allows him to.

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Joel Crump