Joel wrote
Rod Speed wrote

The woman is allowed to take his opinion into
account, but it's ultimately her decision alone.

It isnt and shouldn't be, just like it isnt and
shouldn't be after the brat has been born.

Your position treats women as baby factories.

Mindless bull****. Both parents get a say on what
happens with children for some odd reason.

Only the woman can make the decision about abortion,

Wrong, as always. The state does too.

Maybe you like the state making personal
decisions for you, not everyone feels that way.

Most do with crimes like murder for some odd reason.

And with what happens with the child after
it is born too, again for some odd reason.

but she is free to talk to the man about
it before and after the child is conceived.

And he is free to be included in the
decision on murdering the child.

It's not murder,

Corse it is when the child is killed.

and the man's input is only as
relevant as the woman makes it.

Wrong, as always.

Not as equal to men.

They arent equal if they are the only
ones with any say on what happens.

The man can talk to her about what she'd do if she
becomes pregnant, before agreeing to have sex with her.

But there is no guaranteed that the circumstances won't change,

Yep, well, then don't have sex.

Or use contraception.

If he fails to do that, and she aborts his child, that's
what he gets for being so obsessed with sex.

There is no obsession involved.

Sure there is, he couldn't keep his pants on long
enough to talk about the consequences of having sex.

Mindlessly silly and if this **** is the best you can
manage, there isnt any point in discussing it with you.

That's on him.

Why just him ? That's sexist.