Fredxx wrote:

Antiabortion people (not "pro-life", which is a self-serving slogan
and not a real policy) don't really care about women. And I know, a
lot of them are women, but not ones who comprehend the idea of
equality. A rape victim has every right to bear a child produced from
rape, if they so choose, but to deny them the choice to abort it is
unbelievably sexist.

You were doing well up to this point. It's also sexist to ignore the
father's opinion.

I was discussing a *rapist* being the father, so that's obviously
ridiculous - although, a woman has no responsibility to get the
father's permission to have an abortion in other cases. If a man has
sex with a woman, he ought to have these discussions first, if he
expects her to bear a child they produce. It's up to her whether she
does or not.

So, is it sexist or not? Where one interested party to the embryo
doesn't have a say? I'm not debating whether that is right or not.
Please remember you brought up the subject of sexism.


If the father wants a say, he should talk to the woman about what
would happen if she were to get pregnant, before he takes his pants
off. Once she is pregnant, the woman alone makes the decision.


As Mario said, a man will never have to face
that decision.

That's because as a father he doesn't have any rights for his unborn child.

It's because men don't give birth.

They are party to the formation of an embryo. Unless your name is Mary/


I realize that, but he isn't the one who will have to carry and bear
the child. It's incumbent upon him to talk about the subject before
they have sex.


And if you have an "exception" to an abortion ban for
victims of rape, how will they prove rape was the cause of the
pregnancy? The only solution is to keep abortion legal in general.

Back to common sense.

Your position is unclear.

It is not sexist for laws to be created from the opinion or both men and
women. Have you not heard of suffrage? Anything else is the very
definition of sexism.


The woman is allowed to take his opinion into account, but it's
ultimately her decision alone.

--
Joel Crump