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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 06:12:39 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
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This article compares California's and Florida's approaches to the
Covid
virus. It says results are more or less similar.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9262397/How-California-Florida-took-different-approaches-ended-result.html


I've been puzzled about the marked difference between
Ontario and Quebec - next-door-neighbours -
Ontario pop. 14.5 m. Quebec pop. 8.5 m.
- but with similar population distribution & demographic -
and with ~ similar covid restrictions :
Quebec 1200 deaths per million
Ontario 450 deaths per million

It appears to mostly be due to the stupid Quebecois
thumbing their noses at masks and social distancing
and staying home for the elderly.


I guess you'd know .... but, my daughter lives there
and she doesn't see that behavior at all !

Have fun explaining that massive difference in the death rate.
In theory it could be a dramatic difference in the use of nursing
homes and retirement villages, but there isnt any evidence of that.
In fact both are adjacent in the spending per person on those and
they both have the same proportion of covid deaths happening in
those places.

The first thing I would want to see is the age distribution. Then look
at how many involve nursing homes.
Numbers like this without taking into account other factors can get
you bad results.


Almost all the deaths are elderly - almost all of those
are in care homes ; the exceptions to this are mostly
people with other health problems. There are a few
younger healthy deaths - but not many.
__ Is that different in the USA ? __
My rural 2-County health unit has hit ~ 51 deaths since
it all started - all-but-2 were care-home outbreaks.
The 2-County health unit adjacent to me - who have had
very good luck with their care homes - remarkable stats :

https://www.publichealthgreybruce.on.ca/

... unfortunately - Toronto people and speculators
are flocking there -
and buying up every home & cottage in bidding wars ..
... geeeze and damn ..
... that really sucks.

John T.

The last time I looked most of our Covid deaths were old sick people
too but the stray 30 year old is the one that makes the news. I don't
know. Is Quebec a generally older population than Ontario?

Nope.

I really don't know.

As always.

I have been to Ontario in different areas a couple
of times but I wasn't looking for old people.

Stupid way to work that out. Try
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/...0/t583-eng.htm
Again, the two provinces are adjacent in the table.

The kinds of outdoor things we do tends to draw people younger than us.