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Default 2-prong outlet, 3-prong power strip

On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 5:58:09 PM UTC-5, bud-- wrote:
On 2/10/2021 2:53 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 05:09:35 -0800 (PST), trader_4
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On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 1:58:09 AM UTC-5, Jim Joyce wrote:

Since someone started this thread up again, might as well point out
that if you were to plug a 3 prong surge protector into a two prong ungrounded
receptacle using an adapter, there are a few issues.

First, it's an old system and it's unlikely that a ground is present at the
receptacle box. An adapter is really supposed to be used by using the
wire to ground to the box via the cover screw. But very few are used
that way and even then unless the box is grounded, which is unlikely,
it's useless. So if you did that, the computer and anything else plugged
into the strip would not be grounded.

Next is the issue of what happens to the surge protection. Without
a ground, that path for the surge to dissipate is gone. You would
still have clamping though that would limit the voltages between
the conductors and between the conductors and the strip and
PC ground. So you'd have some protection, but not the best.
A GFCI would provide safety protection from faults that could
be dangerous without a ground, but it won't change the surge protection
issue as there still is no ground.


The only way to be sure about the ground is by using a bug eye tester

Those tester will probably show if the ground is good. But the tester
uses a very small current for the test, and will indicate good if there
is a high resistance in the ground path, like 100 ohms. A ground path
with 100 ohms resistance is useless. A more reliable test would be
connecting a 200W light bulb from hot to ground. I have a tester that
tests with a relatively high current pulses. I think from a previous
thread you have a similar tester.

The testers will also not catch problems that should be very rare, like
if some idiot connects the ground contact to the neutral and an idiot
has reversed hot and neutral.


The plug in testers do detect reversed hot and neutral.