On 27/01/2021 21:06, bert wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
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In article ,
Â* bert wrote:
Hypothetical question. I don't believe in the socialist benefit
culture.

Ah - right. I then hope you refuse any NHS treatment and of course the
OAP.


I've paid rather a lot in during my lifetime as insurance and not taken
a great deal out.

But you talk about benefit culture?

That generally means you think you are entitled to what you've paid for.
Everyone else being scroungers.

Fort he record I am happy with the welfare state as a safety net fort
hose of working age and to provide for those above or below working age.
and have contributed to that all my life. However you were implying that
working v benefits should be a lifestyle choice which I disagree with.

Means testing creates that life-style choice. As soon as you spend your
day working for no money, or sometimes less, it tends to focus such choices.

No-one is owed a living.

Maybe not, but if we create a system incorporting means testing, the
choice of lifestyle becomes inherent.

For many the national minimum wage is a mockery of how much you actually
end up with in your pocket working vs benefits.