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Default OT: Newly Unemployed Keystone XL Pipeline Worker Drops a Reality Bomb...

On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:53:42 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/27/2021 1:02 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 01/26/2021 08:34 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/26/2021 9:41 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 01/26/2021 12:43 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
The circumstances for indigenous pipeline opponents along Montanas
Hi-Line are similar to those of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe in its
2016 objection to the construction of Dakota Access Pipeline. In both
cases, the pipelines avoid tribal land, but intersect with the tribes
drinking water source. There are concerns about culturally important
sites and whether the tribes were adequately consulted. Treaty rights
pertaining to the Assiniboine and Sioux tribes cultural relationship
with the Missouri River, as well as a guarantee to Missouri River water
supporting the reservation are key concerns in a Fort Peck lawsuit
against the federal government.

The Fort Peck rez has 11,000 enrolled members. Time to play cowboys
and Indians.

Could be.Â* I honestly don't know if the pipeline is a good idea or not
as I've not followed it much at all.Â* Seems good for lawyers though.


At the moment, probably not. Oil is down and the Alberta tar sands
production is one of the more pricey techniques. If the economy isn't
permanently in the tank and a new mid-East fiasco starts, a North
American supply of oil would be good. Even if Biden hadn't revoked the
permit they were talking 2023 before it was operational so it isn't
exactly a overnight undertaking.

Alberta and the Bank of Montreal are in hock and Trudeau is in favor of
the project so the Canadians are not happy. The pipe layers aren't
happy. While Alberta crude would be the major item, the location is also
handy for the Williston Basin production that would be fed into it.

Cynically, the Indians are looking for something. I can't blame them
since Fort Peck is about as poor as it gets. It's also 10 miles beyond
the middle of nowhere so it's not about to become a casino resort.

The anti-XL people have jumped on everything including covid as a reason
not to do it. The pro people have a shaky economic argument and a goal
of energy independence.

Whether it's a good thing for Biden to spend political capital on, I
don't know, throwing a fish to the greens and ****ing off the unions.
Suspending oil leases is also going to screw New Mexico.

Then there is the $15 minimum wage -- FOR FEDERAL EMPLOYEES. hope the
baristas didn't get their hopes up. Maybe the local GS-4 workers will
tip a little better. The low rung GS-5's will get a massive 25 cent an
hour raise. The GS-1 and GS-2 grades will do okay but considering a GS-1
doesn't even need a GED we're talking the janitors and so forth.



Looks like it is not going to be cheap crude but is sure is nice to have
crude if needed in the future.


I suppose the devil's advocate would say that oil isn't going
anywhere. If we don't use it now, it will be there when we need it
later but Canada says they need the money now.