nightjar wrote
Rod Speed wrote
nightjar wrote
Fredxx wrote
nightjar wrote
David P wrote

Neuroscientists now claim that the human brain is not
fully developed until age 25-30. We should therefore
raise the voting age to that level. Military service is
different: obedience is valued over thoughtfulness.
With elections, the reverse, thoughtfulness rather than
obedience, should yield better outcomes.

It didn't with Brexit. Leaving seems to have been driven by emotion,
rather than thought.

Are those the thoughts of a remainer? How do you know how all leavers
think?

I don't claim to. However, I have yet to hear one give an argument for
leaving that wasn't either based upon emotion or not backed up by any
facts.

Then you need a new hearing aid, bad.

The most obvious argument is that with the
UK out of the EU the voters will be free to pull
the plug on the govt at the ballot box if it does
something they dont agree with policy wise.
And they did that with Blair and Brown.

Thats not possible with the EU.

I never saw the differences in the political systems as anything more than
a side issue.

Irrelevant to your dishonest claim that you have yet to
hear one give an argument for leaving that wasn't either
based upon emotion or not backed up by any facts.

Neither system is without its faults and both have advantages. Choosing
one over the other is an emotional choice.

Nope, it can be a rational choice about which of the
faults and advantages you consider more important.

This article sets out the factual arguments for and against the two
systems and reaches its own decision:

https://somethingnew.org.uk/news/201...emocratic.html

Irrelevant to your dishonest claim that you have yet to
hear one give an argument for leaving that wasn't either
based upon emotion or not backed up by any facts.

The other obvious point is that EU policy is
decided by an unelected bureaucracy and
even the EU parliament cant initiate policy.

There is no equivalent of a private members bill.

Obviously, you are not familiar with the provisions of the Lisbon Treaty.

We'll see...

That created the Citizens' Initiative, which states that any proposal that
gets at least one million votes from the citizens of a majority of EU
states has to be considered by the EU Commission.

Thats nothing even remotely like the european parliament
being able to write legislation and have that voted on and
become law if it gets enough votes in the parliament.