Fredxx wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Fredxx wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Fredxx wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Fredxx wrote
Rod Speed wrote
jon wrote

I have a preference for the Oxford jab.

Why when it clearly produces a worse result ?

Some article say immunity result were different because of
alternative criteria of success.

Thats bull****, there was no different criteria for success.

The numbers are 90, 94.5 and 95% for Oxford, Moderna and Pfizer
respectively.

Thats bull**** with the Oxford.

Not much in it

There is a hell of a lot in it with the real Oxford numbers
which is 62% for a full dose with both doses.

and in all cases likely to minimise symptoms even if not 100%
effective.

Yes, but much less likely with the Oxford.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...mpare-12134062

Just because some fool journo claims something...

Only a fool would choose to dismiss figures in quite a few
publications and then say "Just because some fool journo claims
something".

Only a fool like you would ignore the 62% number that was seen in the
trial and reported by Oxford with the two full doses and use the 90%
that was only ever seen with the dose ****up that had the first dose a
half does, BY ACCIDENT and with a quite different group
of those vaccinated.

That's right, a single dose gives 62%,

Nope, two full doses one month apart gives 62%

two doses give 90%.

ONLY if the first one is a half dose, with
an unusual subset of vaccinated people.

Correct, so when administered as per trial and current guidelines the
Oxford vaccine gives 90% protection not 62%.

Nope, only 62% and it may well be even worse
than that with the second dose give 12 weeks
after that, but that regime hasnt even been tested.

That took a long time to get here.

You have still ****ed it up completely.

Is that really so hard for you to accept?

Yep, because its just plain wrong.

Now provide a source that says giving two doses in a trial was an
accident.

I didnt say that, I said giving the first dose as a half dose was an
accident.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4564

Are you now admitting your claim, "BY ACCIDENT" was a lie?

Nope, because that is what it was. It wasnt done intentionally.

It's good to see your link says, "The covid-19 vaccine candidate developed
by the University of Oxford is 90% effective".

ONLY when the first dose is a half does and that isnt what
is being done with the general public vaccination program.
They are getting a full dose and that study shows that that
gives only 62% effectiveness even with the second does after
a month and the public isnt even getting that, it will get the
second dose after 12 weeks unless that policy changes.