You are flogging a dead horse as they don't understand Usenet nor apparently
have the ability to read the year on a date when a stupid forrum software
package is misconfigured not to lock old threads older then about a year.
Brian

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On 10/01/2021 19:31, Karl Michael Hardy wrote:
My dad invented those. Mike Hardy (MH)

I'm sure your dad would have read this before replying to an 11 year old
post:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub