On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 11:43:59 -0800 (PST), trader_4
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On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 7:54:30 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 19:50:04 -0800 (PST), Sid 03
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On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 3:01:10 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 05:21:30 -0500, Dean Hoffman
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On 10/11/20 12:52 AM, Eli Sidwell Iii wrote:
On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 9:34:14 PM UTC-5, Eli Sidwell wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 2:20:57 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:16:26 -0500, dpb wrote:

On 9/18/2020 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote:
Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ?
What if you doubled up each wire ?

Would that meet code ?
what if you found one wired up that way ?

Any help appreciated.
Thanks

I ask the contractor about using 3/4" conduit and he stated that the radius was too big to hide in the wall. He said he may use 3/4" but use a 1/2" piece to get around the corner.

Call your local building inspector office and check that you can't just
run Romex...

Then you'll know if the contractor is just stuck in old Chicago or your
jurisdiction hasn't changed to match the times yet, either.

I'd guess odds are 50:50 it would meet your locality's code and
eliminate all the hassle.

Or, if it's so difficult a run to make a bend in the wall (and I can't
see why that should be so -- he might have to make a bigger hole to feed
one end through a joist if it won't fit in one 16" joist bay, but that
shouldn't be any big deal), just do the overhead to the joist cavity
that wants to hit and come in the top of the box and the elbow is above
or could use the pull box in the attic in Code as wouldn't be covered there.

But, going Romex is the smart thing to do -- check with your
municipality to find out what the pertinent Code really is.
Or "BX" if protection is rerquired?
The work was supposed to be done this wknd, but the contractor called on the day of and said he had a family emergency.
If we start having problems like that , I will look around for another contractor.

The corner is an inside corner. Here is a pic from Menards:
https://www.menards.com/main/electri...4430897073.htm

Thanks
Here is the HD link: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Halex-3-...4607/100210850
I got a text from my tenant on Friday stating the receptacle was in and working. Contractor stated that he only needed 2 #6 wires and use the conduit as a ground for the ground and neutral. Don't know I have not seen it yet. May end up ripping it out and re-doing it myself.

Any thoughts ?

There's at least a possibility that the conduit will be routinely
carrying current. The elbow isn't threaded. That would make it easier
to get a bad connection.
I'd vote no. I'm curious what Fretwell has to say.
Fon't know about where the OP is, but up here in Ontario the conduit
can NOT be used as the neutral and in many cases cannot be used as the
"safety ground" either.

Follow UP: I went over and inspected what the contractor had done, what I found was that they installed a "NEMA 6-50" outlet that only has two hots and a neutral, and the neutral was terminated at a ground block in the receptacle box.
So: 1/2" Conduit w/2 #6 wires and the ground from the 6-50 terminated in the receptacle box.

I figure Its on the edge of the building code, but probably not unsafe ?
Thanks
Sid.


Legal but not desirable


Since when is it code compliant to use the ground at a receptacle for the neutral?


I was referring to using the raceway as the grounding conductor.


. You can use the conduit for ground if
everything is made up properly but a #10 grounding conductor would
have been better. There is still no neutral present. If you need that,
this is not going to be legal.

I guess you missed the part where he said the neutral is tied to the ground at the
receptacle. The conduit is not only the ground, it's the neutral too.




A 6-50 only has 2 ungrounded conductors and an equipment grounding
conductor. There was never a legal 6-50 using the neutral as a ground.
It was common on the 14-50 before the 96 code change.