On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 8:03:15 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 13:05:56 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 3:48:20 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 05:03:31 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 1:58:34 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 06:22:36 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

Yeah, that's a good one, because it says the opposite of what Hawk is claiming.
It says that people like him and Trump don't understand co-morbidity, so when
the CDC said the majority of Covid deaths have a co-morbidity listed, that
means they didn't die from Covid. You could have heart disease or diabetes
and live 15 or 20 years. You get infected with Covid, succumb to it and they
list Covid and diabetes on the death certificate. Covid still directly lead
to your death.

Since the highest demographic for covid death is 80+ and a large
percentage were in nursing homes, no they were not going to live 15 or
20 more years. Nursing home statics make that more like 15 or 20 more
weeks if nothing else happened to them including Covid. A bad cold
might push them over the edge.


Less than half of Covid deaths are over 80

Look at them per capita and get back to me.



Why don't you find whatever the data is that you're trying to claim?
That would work much better.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-by-age-group/

Highest number of deaths in the lowest number of people
.
But as usual the thread drifted
If you are 85 and have health conditions (why people go to assisted
living/nursing homes in the first place) any kind of nasty bug is
going to kill you. This is the flu on steroids. Old people or really
anyone in poor health, may die if they get this.

You just contradicted yourself. First saying any kind of nasty bug is
going to kill you, then saying this is the flu on steroids. This isn't
just any nasty bug, it's a highly contagious one that's far deadlier than
the flu.





Build a bubble around them and let r rip.

Sure and overload the hospitals, run out of ICU and have an epic disaster.
Even Trump isn't suggesting that. Additionally, it's a flawed strategy
because there is no evidence that people have much lasting immunity and
can get it again.



We need to build some level of immunity. That is particularly true in
young healthy people because they are least likely to be serious about
not giving it to anyone else. If they are immune, they won't be super
spreaders.

I think when I said "this bug isn't going anywhere and it is coming
after us as soon as we get out from under the bed", I am vindicated.
The bug started grabbing us again as soon as we started opening up.

It mostly succeeds in grabbing you when you are stupid and do stupid things.
Like refuse to practice social distancing, refuse to wear masks, hold
totally unnecessary large gatherings. Unfortunately one of the stupid
people doing all that, encouraging it, is the president.





I suppose we could go through another 6 months of this depression
until the vaccine is properly evaluated by the people we trust to do
that.

And how long do you think it would take to get this herd immunity that you're
proposing? How many more dead do we wind up with? It's hard to find more
than a small percentage of health authorities who say we should go with
your idea.



Then you have to trick people into getting it.

trump is good at that.



Half won't get a
flu shot. Distribution is not an issue if you don't let the government
do it. Just have the vaccines delivered to the big drug store
distribution centers and they can do the rest. Publix pays me to get a
flu shot so there has to be something in it for them..

We are still hoping it works tho.

If this is like the Corona Virus in the common cold, we know it can
mutate faster than we can make vaccine.
I am still waiting for a real answer about reinfection. So far it
seems to just be a collection of anecdotes.

Maybe it would be a good idea to figure that out before claiming herd immunity
is the answer and to just let her rip?