On 5/08/2020 11:12 am, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/08/04 5:50 p.m., Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 5/08/2020 9:16 am, wrote:
30% of adults Americans own guns.
Yep. I do as well. And I am quite adept at their use. Give me any
(Civilian) long-gun, and about 10-20 sight-in rounds, and I will be
consistently within 10 mm at 100 meters. Give me any (Civilian)
hand-gun and I will be the same under the same conditions at about 10
meters.
**Meh. I SCUBA dive, abseil, ride my bikes and do other stuff. Sucking
up lead fumes does nothing to excite me.
At the same time, the only legitimate home-defense weapon is a
shotgun. Care to understand why?
**Doesn't matter. Self defence using a firearm is largely mythical.
And that is the problem with many Americans. They suffer mass paranoid
delusions. No other civilised nation has employed the failed
experiment of allowing civilians to be so heavily armed.
Switzerland?
**Not the same thing. Points:
* They're not civilians.
* They are only allowed to carry them in the streets under very strict
conditions.
* Sales of firearms must be registered with the government.
However everyone went through serious training. It seems
that to qualify in many of the states you just have to be breathing -
not even that if the buyer is using a dead person's ID...
**Yep. It's a huge sad, tragic joke, perpetuated by the NRA and the
firearms manufacturers. Americans are too dumb to realise that the
10,000 Americans that are murdered each year is an appalling example of
bad public policy.
However in many cases where US homeowners are armed the folks that break
in end up using those weapons against them.
(from 2014)
https://www.theatlantic.com/national...-safer/284022/
**Of course. Many Americans fail to secure their firearms properly. You
can't shoot an intruder when you're asleep.
Now, if the CDC was ALLOWED to collect statistics on gun violence -
which I think they are now(?) - then perhaps some answers could be given
that weren't from gun nuts and no gun nuts.
**The NRA and gutless politicians who kow-tow to their craven, money
grubbing ways would never allow that.
As a point of clarity, I like small bore rifles, and sell arcade games
that use guns. I just think that carrying them for 'self-defense' is
stupid and the western marshals (and town councils) of the 1800s agreed,
banning weapons from their towns. You checked them in when you arrived,
and returned when leaving town. Didn't always work, but what does?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/did-t...ve-mo_b_956035
**I rather think that we, here in Australia, have gun control law
settings pretty close to OK.
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Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
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