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Default Excessive motor current draw question

In article ,
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On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:23:15 -0500, M Philbrook
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In article ,
says...

I have a Tiawanese manual lathe with a 3 phase 3hp motor. I run my
shop on a phase converter. I have a CNC lathe with a 15hp spindle and
a CNC mill with a 10hp spindle. Other machines too but it's these 3
that make me wonder. When the CNC lathe spindle is starting it starts
fast. Bang! The mill also starts fast, but not quite as fast. Both of
these machines can start at the same time with no problems. Even when
the chuck is on the lathe. The chuck wieghs about 50 lbs. so it is a
lot of inertia to spin up. But if I start the 3hp lathe at the same
time as the CNC lathe it sometimes faults the spindle drive on the CNC
and it shuts off. The crappy little motor never runs hot enough to
smell, and I've had the machine for about 20 years. It does run rough
though and always strains to start. When starting the manual lathe in
the highest gear it takes longer to spin up to 1150 rpm than the CNC
lathe takes to spin up to 5000 rpm with the 50 lb. chuck. So what
could make this motor draw so much current?
Thanks,
Eric


change the motor and also use a inverter drve to each machine for a
softstart.
The old moter most likely has a centrafugel switch and the bearings are
most likely sloppy causing drag...

Also, I don't know what region you are in but if you have 50 Hz motors
on 60 Hz supply things don't run as well. etc..

I guess you didn't read what I wrote. The motor is a 3 phase, so no
starting switch.


ok, I missed that one sorry but still, you could have a bad 3 phase
contactor with a weak leg on it. That causes poor startups too, long
spin cycles. Actually, you may want to do a phase to phase voltage test
after the contactor or switch that engages these legs to ensure all
three legs are getting equal voltage.

You may have a case where you could only be getting enought to set the
propper direction, this causes lots of drag and over currents on the
legs that are working..

Many phase inverters shut down when seeing unbalnaced loads like this..