On Friday, December 20, 2019 at 2:20:26 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Friday, December 20, 2019 at 1:39:51 PM UTC-5, wrote:

In many places, companies can get paid by local government to install your property with solar panels.


Have you ever done a life-time analysis of a solar panel?

a) Impact of mining the materials going into the panel.
b) Transporting those materials for refining and processing.
c) Transporting the refined materials to the assembly factory.
d) Assembly into panels and testing.
e) Transportation to the installation point.
f) Installation and materials required to do so - as above.
g) Service life (return on first-costs) (approximately 20 years).
h) Removal and restoration of the installation site.
g) Disposition of the removed materials.

In the US, the average cost per KW of actual capacity is about $3,000 before tax credits, and not counting the cost of land, if needed.

The average solar panel is about 40% efficient at the equator and assuming 100% sunny days - this is not solar efficiency, but actual production-to-nameplate numbers. So, in North America, that drops to about 25%. The average cost per KWH, nationwide is about $0.1319. But to make the panels 'look better', let's use $0.14.

So, a panel with a nameplate of 1,000 watts (1kw) will make 6,000 watts per day of actual power, on average. Or, $0.84 per day. Average of $25.55 per month. Or, $306.60 per year.


On a straight-line payback (no time-value of money included), the first-cost will be paid back in 9.8 years. We still have not counted the cost of proper disposition. And we have carefully elided on the environmental impact in their manufacture.

What makes solar panels 'practical' as a primary generator of electric power is that the various governments have bamboozled their taxpaying constituents into subsidizing their use for no discernible return. If one wishes to be 'off the grid', then solar power is a perfectly legitimate option. But it should in no way be subsidized with tax revenue.

Properly managed, nuclear power is cheaper and cleaner than solar power. The issue is, simply, that the political will to manage it properly does not yet exist.

Properly managed, wind power is vastly cheaper and vastly cleaner than solar power. The issue is, simply, that not every site is amenable to wind.

Then, there is tidal power. Not cheap, but once the plant is built, it will last pretty much indefinitely.

Solar power is one of the greatest frauds

You are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

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Solar Delivers During New England Heatwave [imagine how its going in Death Valley]
PV Magazine
July 25, 2018
-- https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2018/07/...land-heatwave/