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Default Radiation Alert, Monitor 4 repair

On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 02:08:42 -0800 (PST), William Beaty
wrote:

https://seintl.com/radiation-detectors/monitor-4/

I found that all three were damaged and leaky, resembling
resistors of value between 1M and 4M. They still checked
out as diodes. But they were conducting at much lower
voltages than their rating.


Offhand, that sounds to me like a dirty, leaky, or water logged PCB.
Did you test the diodes with at least one lead lifted from the PCB?
If you measured the resistance while the diodes were on the PCB or you
did some soldering on the PCB, clean both sides of the PCB first with
distilled water, and then with 91% (or better) isopropyl alcohol. If
there's no conformal coating, try acetone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bus-pdiHLq0

My Geiger counter doesn’t count (sob sob)
https://www.edn.com/my-geiger-counter-doesnt-count-sob-sob/
I have known them fail due to HV leaking from the tube
across the PCB. The board has to be very clean, free of
any flux etc. Often commercial ones are attached with
Teflon spacers to minimize charge leakage.

They caused the -HVDC value to be around -260V, so the
geiger tube wasn't counting.


Again, you could be measuring board leakage, not diode leakage.

On the PCB, the first diode is connected between a 470K resistor and
a 4.7M resistor which leads to the GM tube. All three diodes are in series.

I didn't have any 1N5281 on hand, so I tried a 1N5279 (180V,
not 200,) and the unit woke up and worked fine.


What you might have done is vaporized any water (or contamination)
around the solder pads.

It might not give
calibrated meter readings though, since the energy of each pulse
might be down to ((510-40)/(510))^2, or 85% (since the HV supply
is down by about 8%, if low by 20+20=40V)

Note that there's a trimmer pot on the PCB. Possibly for meter
calibrate? I didn't change its setting, measured at 362 ohms.


Dunno. I couldn't find an inside photo or a schematic. My guess(tm)
is that the pot is in series or across the meter to set full scale.

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