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Default Odd Dyson fault

On 12:00 24 Dec 2019, newshound wrote:

On 23/12/2019 22:25, Pamela wrote:
On 17:55 23 Dec 2019, newshound wrote:



The issue is not safety as lithium ions batteries and chargers are
usually well protected but that the battery is stressed when it
contains a full charge. I'm told it also physically swells.

Those smartphone users trying to conserve lithium ion batteries will
not charge above 80% or so. A Dyson doesn't offer the same degree of
control but leaving it on charge the whole time continually keeps
topping up in the most stressful way.

Citation? I don't doubt that the wall-wart feeding the bracket is very
basic, but doesn't the clever control stuff live inside the battery?


Cites with breaks for clarity:

Lithium-ion operates safely within the designated operating voltages;
however, the battery becomes unstable if inadvertently charged to a
higher than specified voltage. Prolonged charging above 4.30V on a
Li-ion designed for 4.20V/cell will plate metallic lithium on the
anode.

The cathode material becomes an oxidizing agent, loses stability and
produces carbon dioxide (CO2).

https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries


a Li-ion battery cycled within 75%-25% SoC (blue) would fade to 74%
capacity after 14,000 cycles.

If this battery were charged to 85% with same depth-of-discharge
(green), the capacity would drop to 64% at 14,000 cycles,

and with a 100% charge with same DoD [depth of discharge] (black), the
capacity would drop to 48%.

For unknown reasons, real-life expectancy tends to be lower than in
simulated modeling. Environmental conditions, not cycling alone, govern
the longevity of lithium-ion batteries.

The worst situation is keeping a fully charged battery at elevated
temperatures. Battery packs do not die suddenly, but the runtime
gradually shortens as the capacity fades.

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Environmental conditions, not cycling alone, govern the longevity of
lithium-ion batteries. The worst situation is keeping a fully charged
battery at elevated temperatures.

https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries