On 20/12/2019 17:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/12/2019 10:58, John Rumm wrote:
On 20/12/2019 09:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/12/2019 10:20, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/12/2019 07:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/12/2019 23:23, John Rumm wrote:

Its quite common for the default setup on many mail servers

mail RELAYS.

Not all mail servers are relays.

Oh dear. But all servers accepting SMTP traffic from end users are.

Who mentioned SMTP? (clue - only you)

Thats because I know that when you send mail through a server, you use
SMTP.

or Exchange...

Why are you finding it so difficult to understand a simple sentence like:

"Its quite common for the default setup on many mail servers to only
accept either SSL or STARTLS connections now. "

For the avoidance of doubt, I do mean all servers, and not just SMTP
relays. In "all servers" I include POP3, IMAP, Exchange, and SMTP. Only
two of those can be relays.

Many ISPs and email hosts will only accept secure connections by
default. MS do it with hosted 365 and Exchange mail accounts, as does
Google, Rackspace and many other large mail hosts.

(you may recall your own difficulty accessing a Gmail account from
Thunderbird for this very reason)


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Cheers,

John.

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