On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 12:52:17 PM UTC-5, devnull wrote:
On 12/19/19 10:54 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 5:44:28 AM UTC-5, Jack wrote:
On 12/19/19 4:12 AM, Bod wrote:
On 19/12/2019 07:57, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 05:25:33 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 18/12/2019 23:52, wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:00:55 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 18/12/2019 16:50, wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 15:23:44 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 18/12/2019 15:02, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article ,
says...

ABC US correspondent Zoe Daniel on covering mass shootings and
worrying
about her kids at school

https://www.abc.net.au/news/about/ba...sting/11795138

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Bo


Bad as it is, she does not have to be here in the first place.

People worry so much about the gun deaths, but sweep under the
rug that
in the US slightly over 100 people die every day in car
accidents.Â* Hard
telling how many get injured really bad.

Looks to me like there needs to be much more thought into how to
prevent
car accidents and road rage.


Any other country would regard 45 school shootings in one year
to be
horrendous. Nearly one a day.
I can only recall the UK having just 2 in its history.

The US has the weakest gun laws in the developed world.

Part of the problem is they lump gang disputes after hours near a
school as a school shooting. When you look at the actual numbers of
what these people fear, it is a pretty remote thing. The kids do have
a higher chance of being killed walking to school or riding with Mom
in a traffic accident.

Ok, but why then do US schools have armed guards. No school in the UK
has one.

They have cops there and by definition US cops are armed.

Eh!!!?

It may be shocking to a UK guy but our cops are always armed and some
are obscenely well armed.Â* (automatic weapons, destructive devices and
armored vehicles)

It IS shocking to us. The cops must be in fear all of the time.
When I drove in the US I had to keep reminding myself that if I got
stopped by the cops that I must stay in my car and keep my hands visible
and keep still.
In the UK you can get out of your car before the cops do and have your
hands in your pockets whilst walking towards them and they wouldn't bat
an eyelid. They certainly wouldn't think you possibly had a gun in your
pocket. I know because I've done it when I got randomly stopped once.



The problem in the US is that the crybaby libtards went soft on crime
and eliminated the death penalty so now we got violent repeat offenders
roaming the streets. We need to bring back the death penalty because
once a criminal stops breathing, the recidivism problem goes away.

Nonsense. Every mass shooter I can think of has had no felony record
at all, let alone for any capital offense. And typically the mass shooting
is their first violent offense. Thanks for representing for the gun nuts.


So it has to be a mass shooting to matter? What's the magic number
before it matters?

We were discussing mass shootings. And I never said that shootings of just
one, two, three people don't matter. Maybe you have me confused with Fretwell.





And are you the same trader_4 that was recently ranting about the
illegal alien (with a police record as long as his arm) that killed Kate
Steinle?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-found-n823351

Or maybe it was Bambi Larson?



And if each of these victims had been packing some heat, the outcome
would likely have been different.

Again, we were discussing mass shootings, here you're talking about individual
murders and one of the two was using a knife. So, IDK what your point is.
Steinle could have been armed, it would have made ZERO difference. She
never saw the perp, nor was she the target. The bullet ricocheted off
the pavement and struck her. Larson, sure, maybe if she was armed the outcome
could be different. But statistics also show that if she did have guns in
the house, it's also possible that some innocent person would have been
shot, eg shooting a friend who's climbing in a window, child getting the
gun, etc. I have no problem with people having guns. The issue is that
in order to buy one legally, you should have to go through a reasonable
permit process, where you apply to the local police and they do a real
background check that includes looking at all police files from local
to federal, checking with your employer, references, schools if you are
a recent graduate, before making a decision to issue the permit. I really
don't understand how conservatives can have a problem with that. It's
already in place and working in some states.




And maybe if the libtard justice system stopped releasing criminals back
out onto the streets, maybe citizens wouldn't need guns?


No argument from me there. The two you reference above should have been
in prison, then deported following their first crimes. And we need Kate's
LAw, to provide for a mandatory 5 year sentence for criminal illegal aliens,
that once deported, illegally re-enter again. Someone should ask McConnell
why he refused to bring that up for a vote in the Senate. The House
passed it, that scum bucket buried it. The only reasonable reason I can
see is that he was looking out for some of his Democrat pals who did not
want to be put on record, having to vote on it. And where is your super
hero Trump on this? When the GOP had control of Congress, why didn't
loud mouth champion that and get it passed?