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On 08/12/2019 04:14, Bill Wright wrote:
On 07/12/2019 14:35, Richard wrote:
On 07/12/2019 12:46, Bill Wright wrote:
On 07/12/2019 09:43, wrote:
On Saturday, 7 December 2019 02:58:50 UTC, Bill Wright
wrote:
I'm old enough to remember Window Tax.

But you wuz too poor to 'ave windows :-)

Owain

We had the windows but not the glass.

Bill

Better than having the glass and no windows.

No because you could sell the glass and buy shoes.

Corbyns new window tax is really going to hurt some people.

Nope, because there is no chance that he will be the govt.

unfortunately,

there is

Dont believe it.

The issue is the possibility of tactical voting by some to avoid
letting Boris become PM.

There isnt even remotely enough tactical voting
to make up for the need for 100 more seats for a
Labour/LD coalition to do better than the Torys.

it's not 100

It is with the number of seats a Labour/LD coalition
needs to have more seats than the Torys.

30 would do it

Nope, because most of the seats that change
would be from Labour to the LD and so wouldnt
affect the total for a Labour/LD coalition.

(you've forgotten the SDP)


Um SNP

SNP reckon that they can take 10 seats off the Tories


And it remains to be seen if thats just more polly bull****.

Nope, you have forgotten that most of the seats
that will change will be from, Labour to the LD,


Nope, LD are in second place to the Tories in quite a few seats


What matters is the seats that can change party, not the total seats,


those are the seats that can change party

seats like Cheltenham

Thats not anything like possible by tactical voting
given that so few are into tactical voting.

There is never going to be a coalition between
a rabid Trot/Marxist Labour and the LD,


let's hope we don't get to find out


We wont, you watch. Like I said, there are only 3 possibilitys,
a majority Tory govt, a Tory coalition or a minority Tory govt.


there is zero chance of a Tory coalition

there is no one who will coalesce with them

but if that is the only numbers that work,


Thats wrong too.


There are only two possible end results he

A Tory Government

A rag tag and bobtail collation government formed from Labour/SNP/LD/PC/Grn.

Either of which could actually be a minority government because the N Irish
MPs wont join with anybody (and can usually be expected not to turn up for
any debate not actually affecting NI).

I won't be betting against it


Irrelevant to what can happen.


of course it's not irrelevant

the largest of those two choice above *will* be the next government.

There is no chance that a Tory government which can be out voted by the
combined strength of Labour+SNP+LD+PC+Grn could be formed, because all of
the other parties are so vehemently against Boris and his policies

Muddling through hoping that e.g. the LDs abstain just aint gonna work

There is never going to be a coalition between
a rabid Trot/Marxist Labour and the LD,


As I said, I hope that we don't get to find out

because if we do, I believe that you will be proven wrong.

The LD have no other choice available to them

they might extract some concessions, but they *will* back Labour if that's
the way to a non-Tory government.