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On 01/12/2019 07:26, tim... wrote:


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On 30/11/2019 11:34, tim... wrote:


"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 29 November 2019 15:13:10 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
T i m wrote:

I doubt I'll be actually spoiling either this time as I / we have
something we actually / specifically want to protest against

Why not do what everyone else will be doing and decide to vote for[1]
someone, rather than against something?

I'd say because in the general election, although Brexit is perhaps
the biggest thing there are other things to be condidered from the NHS
to what to do about climate change (if it's happening)

and wtf difference is voting for one party or the other going to do
anyway?

we are 0.1% of the world population


And consume/produce vastly more per capita than most countries. And
we're (the UK) about 1% of the global population - producing 1% of CO2
emissions (for example, insofar as that's a measure of it all).


sorry my mistake.

we can reduce our carbon footprint to zero and it's going to make ****
all difference if the other 99.9% does nothing (which is exactly what
most of them are doing)


Why would that stop you doing the right thing?


because it overly inconveniences me in a way that the rest of the world's
population isn't inconvenienced

and it adds to our company's costs of operation that makes them
uncompetitive in a world competing with companies in other countries that
don't have this extra costs.

FTAOD, I do my part. I use PT exclusively, I recycle all my waste
(preferring not to actually take that waste from the shop in the first
place). I never ever throw away uneaten food. I use reusable shopping bag
(always have done even before it was encouraged by a tax). I have my
house heating set to a low level etc etc


I think that sounds quite a reasonable, balanced response.

But apparently I am some climate criminal because I should have the
temerity to have 2 holidays per year (oh and now eating meat as well
makes me a major criminal).


It doesn't make you a 'criminal'. Depending upon how you deal with
questions on morality and non-human animal cruelty, intensive animal
farming,


As an individual I have little control over that

and climate issues, my view is that people who suggest you are are idiots.


It's not individuals, but organisations that make the charge

tim