On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 21:51:12 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 21:15:21 +0100, Rod Speed
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 20:54:58 +0100, Rod Speed
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Commander Kinsey wrote

Why can't I find a heat pump with a good SEER rating?
The USA has a law stating 13 minimum. Yet here in the
UK, I looked at Panasonic and they're all 7 to 11!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season...ficiency_ratio

That doesn't explain why Panasonic (which are good aren't they?) are
manufacturing a product which is not much better than half as good as
the
minimum required by US law. Is it old **** they're selling to other
countries because the Americans aren't allowed to buy them?

The higher SEER rating costs more and you lot don't need the
higher air conditioning capability in your summers where you
lot start whining about a heat wave when its only 25C

But they get used for heating here too,

Those by definition have a much worse SEER
when heating because the outside freezes
up in the conditions you lot have in winter.

Yes, but I'd expect the best SEER rating to be quoted if they only quote one.

and will be a lot more as houses built after 2025 cannot have gas boilers
by some stupid EU treehugger law.

The UK will be out of the EU by then.

But we might end up keeping the stupid law.

Tho you stupid hairy legged cross dressing haggis
gorgers may well be back in the EU by then.

I ****ing hope not, that stupid SNP woman was told no once.

I'm already seeing new houses with heatpumps installed.

Sure, but the SEER for heating is always much worse.

But can still work out cheaper than gas.

Are you taking about heating or cooling ?

I want it for both. It's not clear from the Panasonic I was looking at
what mode the SEER applies to.

That must be spelled out on there somewhere.

It isn't. Go here and click specifications: https://www.aircon.panasonic.eu/GB_e...er-silver-r32/