On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:52:28 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote:

snip weirdo drool

But I still don;t see that as T i m being able to claim that remain was the result

How do you manage to dress yourself in the mornings (assuming you do)?

I have never, ever stated 'Remain was the result' (of the Referendum)
because it wasn't, patently.

What I have said is, of those people asked, only 1/3rd actively voted
to change from the status quo (fact).

because there wasn;t a supermajority ,

Correct, when one would have made this whole thing far more definitive
rather than divisive.

and that all those that didn;t vote wanted to remain

Nope, all I have ever said is that 2/3rds of the electorate didn't
vote to Leave, the only answer that would have made any difference to
what we were all already doing. Fact.

even though they didn't chose to vote remain.

As explained elsewhere (several times), people often don't bother to
vote for something they have already got and so it's likely that many
of those who actually voted Remain would have done so because they
actually / specifically wanted to remain, whilst others would have
voted Remain because it was considered the 'safe' option, 'Better the
devil you know'. Others (like me) wouldn't have wanted to vote for
Leave because I had no prior reason / thoughts to want to and couldn't
vote Remain because for the same reason, I didn't *know* that Leaving
wouldn't be better for 'most people.

3 years on, I have no better understanding of what would be the right
(or even least wrong) answer for 'most people' but would vote remain
as a protest against what the complete and utter clusterfcuk the whole
thing has turned out to be, as suspected it would be by me in the
first place.


The 'will of the people' is just a buzz word he likes to throw around, similar to the way farage would if he had lost.

You *are* a weirdo that's for sure and you seem to revel in it (as
trolls do of course).

Of course 'The will of the people' is something you would never be
able to understand, because unlike the test tubes you clean, it isn't
just down to counting them to fully understand what you are dealing
with.

Bottom line. Given just how much of a (divisive / expensive)
clustefcuk this whole Brexit whilst elephant has turned out to be, the
blood of anyone who dies or even suffers because of the mess so far
.... or because we do actually leave, with or without a deal will be
squarely on the hands of every single Brexiteer [1]. Not that they
will care of course, it would just be collateral damage to them (as
long as they get their way).

Cheers, T i m

[1] As oppose to just ordinary Leave voters who felt they had the need
to put a cross in one of the boxes and voted Leave because they
believed the Leave campaign lies, someone down the pub or the coin
toss landed that way.

No one could have voted Leave on facts and full knowledge of the
outcome and impact because 3 years on we still don't have a clue about
that.

Voting Remain would have been a vote to carry on doing what we are,
accepting that may change in the future (doh), *but not* restricting
the option that if it changed negatively, we couldn't leave at that
time, if leaving was considered (ideally by a supermajority) to be the
right thing to do.