On 24/09/2019 22:01, Norman Wells wrote:
On 24/09/2019 21:20, James Hammerton wrote:

The government could try to force a general election by calling a VoNC
in itself, but that risks a new government being formed by the
opposition with no guarantee of an election any time soon.

The carrying of a vote of no confidence with no reversal withing 14 days
is a general election, which the country desperately needs.

Yup, I know, but those 14 days could be enough time for a new government
to form (the mythical GNU) for the purpose of securing the extension to
A50.


There is only the risk of a new government if another party is elected
with a larger majority.

The opposition have shown, with the help of the disgruntled Tories, that
they can command a majority in Parliament (with a helpful Speaker) to
take over the order paper and further pass legislation that is in direct
opposition to government policy.

If they can wield that majority to form a new government during the 14
day period then they can ensure the general election does not occur on
Boris's terms.


How long a coalition of disgruntled Tories, a rather fractious Labour
party, the Lib Dems and the nationalists can keep going might be
questioned though.

Whilst I could see such a government lasting long enough to secure the
A50 extension they want, ISTM is unlikely to hang together for very
long after that.

Doing that however might be all they need to do to draw out Brexit for
a very long time. If the EU were to e.g. propose a 2 year extension,
ISTM that would probably be supported by a majority in the present
Parliament.

If we have a general election all that can change.

A general election held after an A50 extension is secured would mean
that, even if we returned a majority Brexit party government, we would
need an agreement with the EU to leave before the new Article 50
deadline was up. In the absence of such agreement, we'd be stuck in the
EU at least until the new deadline expired.


Why do you think Corbyn is running so scared of one?

The poll ratings for him aren't exactly inspiring. I note he's achieved
the lowest approval rating of an opposition leader ever recorded!

Regards,

James