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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/09/2019 11:16, Clive Page wrote:
On 17/09/2019 16:07, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I don't want a second referendum anymore than I wanted the first one.
But it does seem those who who did secretly believe it was a fluke.

The Brexit supporters are against a second referendum quite simply
because the Remain side would almost certainly win.

Complete lie.


Look at public opinion polls: all those published in the last 18
months show Remain ahead by several percentage points.

Complete lie. TRhe opposite is true.

Of course polls have errors but this consistent lead in all of them
is above any likely error, and means Remain would almost certainly
win in any re-run.

The reason is simple: in 3 years about 2 million electors have died,
most of them elderly, and we know that about 75% of the elderly (those
over 70_ voted to Leave. They have been replaced by about 2 million
people in the 18-21 age group, who we know are in favour of Remain by
80 to 90%.


Complete lie.

You may think that as people get older their views get more
conservative and perhaps incline more towards Leave. But the limited
evidence available suggests this is not true. One reason is that
Leave voting is much more correlated with lack of education than with
age: of course the 70+ group were young when only about 8% could go
to college so it's hardly their fault that they never got a decent
education. This means that many of them have the world-view of a
little-Englander. Education does not seem to vanish with age and
neither, as far as pollsters can tell, does being in favour of
remaining in the EU.

Complete lie.

Conclusion: the Leave side may have left it too late. Indeed if we
left now it would be profoundly anti-democratic, as the majority of
the population already don't want it and it will be hard to reverse.
Even if nobody has changed their mind, the electorate as a whole
has. Hence Boris's fanatical determination to leave as soon as
possible. He knows it will be too late to do it any later.

Complete lie.

If we do leave, I think there will be an inexorable rise in demand to
rejoin within a few years. That will have left us all worse off.

Complete lie.


You can be fairly certain you're on the money if Turnip answers 'complete
lie' to everything.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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