On Thursday, 12 September 2019 21:28:45 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/09/2019 10:44, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:01:19 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
On 11/09/2019 13:30, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:22:35 UTC+1, NY wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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You
could buy it from the school shop or from one specific gents' outfitters
in
town. There was still a gradation of poor/rich, based on the grade of
blazer
that your parents bought you: a "cheap" felt-like material or "expensive"
worsted barathea. It was still more or less the same style and cut, the
same
colour (bottle green), same "silver" buttons, and with the same school
badge
on the breast pocket, but the gradation of the type of material still
sorted
the sheep from the goats ;-)

yes but the general idea was that everyone from that school looked pretty
much the same.


In other words, if you try to make everyone the same, they'll *still*
find a
way to look for differences and better/worse distinctions ;-)

Yes but the school can claim everyone is treated the same.

Yes, the school treated everyone the same and everyone looked more or less
the same, barring attempts to "vary" the school uniform as much as they
could get away with - because human nature seems to be that everyone wants
to look as different from each other as they can manage while staying within
the rules.

That depends on the culture this wasn't true in china. It is still isn't true in the authodox religions such as judaism, have yuo been to stamford hill ?

The one situation where school uniform is a problem, is when it immediately
identifies children from the "posh school" to the local kids from the
council estate next door. We had a real problem with local "Pots Kids" (the
district was unofficially called Potovens because of the smelting ovens in
the area a long time ago) invading the school grounds, and attacking
isolated boys who got separated from the rest while out on a cross-country
run.

Standard practice if you look differnt and it's not only a human trait it happens with animals too.

When I was at school it was the closest school that happened to be catholic school that were the enemy I rememer one day one year someone saw a knife.

But I had to walk almost past that school withing a few 100 metres but was never attacked they looked at us we looked at them. A few thugs might get involved in somne fights but the vast majoroty just got on with life.


My mum said that in her day, the girls from the High School and the boys
from the Grammar School were not allowed to be seen together while wearing
school uniform (this was a High School rule - the Grammar School were not as
paranoid) which was a problem when brothers and sisters travelled home on
the same bus or train. Some girls took plain clothes in a holdall and
changed into them in the loos just outside the school gate so they could
meet brothers or boyfriends without being penalised. The school knew it
happened and condoned this way of avoiding the rule: apparently it was not
the fact that *"their* girls met boys, but the fact that they were seen to
be High School girls doing it. The school had a very strange attitude: they
allowed junior boys from the Grammar School to use the pool - obviously when
girls were nowhere near - but they imposed a cur-off age of 12 because they
thought that older boys, post-puberty, would "pollute" the water. Maybe they
genuinely thought that their girls could become pregnant through swimming in
water that virile boys had just swum in ;-)

Sounds reasonable.
But boys from boys schools and girls from girls schools were always kept apart when close to the schools, nothing new about that.

Were they? Many boys from my boys only Grammar school spent most
lunchtimes over at the girl's Grammar.

I was talking offically, not what atually happened.

No-one ever instructed the pupils of either school that they weren't
permitted at the other school. There wasn't an official position on it.

I doubt that otherwise why split the schools into boys and girls why not split them into left brainers and right brainers or any other division.
My old infants school had two separte entrances for boys and girls although they were never used like that when I was there.



And I very much doubt gay male students spent much time in the girls scools.
unless it was an attempt to cover up their sexual preference.

Not sure where that came from, as I did not say "all the boys", only
"many boys" spent their luchtime there - as as our lunch was 1-1/2 hours
and the walk was only 15 minutes, there was plenty of time.

and I'm betting some boys like I did spend time playing football or going to the park or the local newsagents.