In message , Steve Walker
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On 08/09/2019 10:29, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Steve Walker
writes
On 08/09/2019 07:10, Stephen Cole wrote:


Whats the point of all of this, Brian? What do you people genuinely
believe were going to gain from all this upheaval and madness?

Freedom to make our own choices, set our own laws, hold our own
government to account for allowing large numbers of immigrants
overloading already limited resources and infrastructure, reduce the
downward pressure on low-end wages.

We don't seem to have any difficulties setting our own laws. Hasn't
Parliament has just set one (subject to Royal assent on Monday)?

Can we decide on whether we want tracking in our new vehicles?

Is this going to be an EU regulation?

Expensive safety systems that make only a little difference to safety,
but render vehicles uneconomic to repair after only slight damage?

Is this going to be an EU regulation?

To reduce or raise import tariffs on certain goods? At what level VAT
should be set? Whether any VAT is due on particular goods?

Yes - the EU is trying to standardise VAT and other taxes. But is this
intolerable? If we're inside the EU, we can always work to try and get
rates changed. [And yes - I know we're not happy with the 'tampon tax'.]
But administrations do need to raise revenue, and VAT (essentially a
simple, modern form of purchase tax) is one way of doing it.

To control immigration? And the list goes on.

We already have far more control than we've bothered to exercise. And
didn't the EU agree to have a look at our situation when Dave Cameron
went to the EU in the spring of 2016?

Yes we can make our own laws - but only if they don't contradict EU
laws or no EU country feels that that law affects their companies more
than others.

What is the latest situation regarding vetoes? Yes, we do have to obey
the rules of the club - but we also help make these rules. Apart from
fish and bent bananas, which laws do we find intolerable?

Look at the ridiculous case of Scotland and now Wales wanting to
introduce a minimum per unit price for alcohol and it being held up as
a number of countries contest it as a restriction of trade.

I agree. There should be free beer for all UK workers. Where's my
nearest Wetherspoons?
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Ian