On 06/09/2019 11:46, Norman Wells wrote:
On 06/09/2019 09:28, nightjar wrote:
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That is entirely down to Boris. It was his insistence on a no deal
Brexit that lead a number of Conservative MPs, his brother included,
to put the national interest before their own careers. He single
handedly lost the government's working majority and, having lost
control, nobody trusts him enough to give it back.

But actually he hasn't insisted on a no deal Brexit.

He has said he would have the UK leave on 31st October, deal or no deal.
He has made no serious moves to negotiate a deal and has suspended
parliament, so there wouldn't be enough time to debate it if he did. His
intentions couldn't be more clear if they were written in 10 foot high
letters across the front of the Palace of Westminster.

If he had, Farage
would not be saying at his conference that he will fight the
Conservatives in every seat in the land....

That is just Nigel throwing his toys out of the pram, because he isn't
getting the media attention he thinks he deserves. If it were about
Brexit, rather than about Nigel wanting to feel important, he would say
that The Brexit party would not be putting up any candidates in a
general election and urging anybody who would have voted for them to
vote Conservative.

David Cameron didn't call the referendum because he thought that UKIP
would ever be a serious force in parliament. He called it because he
thought they could take enough votes from the Conservatives to lose them
a general election. The same applies now with TBP. If Boris is going to
be the one to take the UK out of the EU, he needs to win Labour marginal
seats in Leave voting areas. At Peterborough, the Brexit party took
Leave voters from Labour, but far more from the Conservatives, with the
result that Labour won. Had TBP supporters voted Conservative, it would
have been a decisive Conservative win. The same is likely to happen in
any Labour marginal in any Leave area.

....
There's no getting away from it.Â* Corbyn was unequivocal about wanting
an election and being ready for one just four days ago:
....
Now that one has been offered, it turns out he didn't really mean it at
all.

He's running scared and denying the 'democratic way forward' he so nobly
espoused so little time ago.

As I said, Labour is more than willing to have a general election, but
when it suits them, in November, not when it suits Boris.


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Colin Bignell