On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 13:06:42 +0100, Pancho
wrote:

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By contrast, a Shuttle PC with both drives internal would be more like
most SOHO NAS's, being all-in-one.

Nothing stopping one putting a RPi and HDD in a single case of course.
;-)

I just put mine in a cupboard. I expect someone will do a case to hold
an Pi + SSD soon, now the Pi has proper gigabit Ethernet.

That would be nice.

Shuttle is nice but expensive.

Not so bad s/h. ;-)

USB drives are faster
than a gigabit lan, so no need to worry about the lack of SATA.

Even USB2?


No, but the Pi 4 has USB 3.

True but I was thinking more the drive (bay) itself if only USB2.

You can
even run it all off POE.

Handy if you wanted it down the shed or in the loft I guess. ;-)

Added security from theft/fire if it is out of the way. Another basket
to put the eggs in.

Quite.


So happy with the Pi 4 + SSD as a NAS for my frequent NAS files, I was
looking for something to put my old spinning HDDs in, but everything
look a bit expensive or crap.

Are you just running Raspian and some shares or some other NAS
software?


Just a Smaba share on Raspbian (well Hypriot actually = Debian very
similar to Raspbian Lite. I only used Hypriot as the Docker install was
problematic on the initial release of Raspbian Buster. It's fixed now,
and I would use Raspbian Lite if I reinstall).

Ok thanks.

Hmm, 'Docker', seen mention of it many times but wasn't sure what it
was. So, that would make it easier to get access to files stored on a
NAS from the outside world ... using the likes of ownCloud possibly?

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Even it if I left the old PC on
24/7 it would be three years before the electricity cost was more than
the capital cost of something like a less powerful Synology.

True, but you still have a fairly big box stuck somewhere and often,
fairly noisy (old PSU and CPU fans etc). That's why I liked these
Shuttle PC's, silent and very small. I even considered mounting the
opened Shuttle PC inside an ITX case as then I could extend both SATA
connectors (main HDD and DVD) to std drives, inc 3.5" jobbies inside
the main case.


But my spinner HDDs are noisy so whatever I put them in will be noisy.

Maybe I'm lucky that I can't hear any of mine. ;-) That said, maybe
because they were chosen (or happen to be, as in this Mac Mini) laptop
drives in well damped enclosures / mounts? Even the 4TB external
laptop drive on my OMV RPi2B NAS is virtually silent and that's
currently by our bed. ;-)

The actual Core2Duo fan + case isn't particularly noisy. I also have a
cupboard to put it in.

I prefer to have such machines out in the open to ensure they get a
reasonable airflow?

The real ****er is it doesn't have wake on lan.

That's an advantage of having something that is so low power that it
can just sleep.

I also have an ultra small ZBox CI323 nano, looks nice, it works ok as a
router (130Mb/s OpenVPN tunnel) but is a bit **** for anything else,
although now you mention it it would make a good NAS.

The other day I was copying a large (Ex BD) video file to the OMV
Shuttle whilst streaming another from the OMV it to another PC and the
CUP utilisation was hardly registering, suggesting even the lowly Atom
could cope with such roles with ease.

Cheers, T i m

p.s. I've just noticed / downloading the image for OMV4 for the Pi4.
;-)