On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 08:04:07 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

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how do you come up with these idiot conclusions? It certainly isn't by using logic, reason or any of those other sense based things.

I think the main answer is in the first part of your question and
anything left over is covered in the rest. ;-)

Once you get that, any other dealings is like wrestling with a pig.
;-)

Cheers, T i m