"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 02:04:08 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 01:25:01 +0100, wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 12:07:47 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
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On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 2:27:51 PM UTC-4,
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:19:24 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:16:18 +0100, Brian Reay wrote:

On 12/06/2019 18:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is insane. Legally (like anyone pays any attention to these
laws)
you cannot do simple things like fitting an electrical socket to
your
own home, but you can change the brakes on your car. The second
one is
FAR more dangerous to other people!

https://www.mglondon.uk/blog/electri...n-electrician/

While I'm no fan of Part P and I'm not defending it, perhaps you'd
be
less irate if you checked a decent source.

That one has obvious contradictions. Eg: Look at the entry
referring
to
sockets in both lists. (Item 1 in first list, 3&4 in second
list.)

I guess it's one of those rules that nobody understands. A
(Scottish,
therefore not subject to part P) electrician told me you couldn't
even
replace a lightswitch in England without a certificate.

That is not what the list you posted said in things you can do.

+1

The list is also somewhat contradictory and stupid in at leas some
places.
Like:

DIY Not allowed:

Re-wire sockets or lights that are faulty and causing the fuse to trip


Allowed:

Replace a simple light fitting
Replace an existing socket or light switch like for like
Make repairs to loose wirings in switches, light fittings, or plugs
Replace light switches
Replace sockets

So if you have a light fixture with an obvious short, you can't
replace it yourself. And good luck enforcing that BS.

You're not allowed to install a "home entry system". What's that?
Security alarm?

I think they are saying that if you have a wiring fault you should
call a pro but you can throw a receptacle, switch or luminaire at it
to see if that fixes anything first.

Which is insane, because an idiot could just as easily cause a fire by
replacing a switch badly.

Wrong, that doesn't cause a fire. The only two likely results is that
doesn't
work or takes out the fuse.

Loose cables connected to anything can cause arcs and heating.

But not fires, because the socket, switch etc don't burn.

Or you might put the wrong switch in without the appropriate current
carrying capabilities.

That just sees the switch fail, doesn't start a fire.