On Thu, 2 May 2019 15:28:08 -0400, Bod F wrote:

Roughly ten years ago (March 2009), I invested $200 in the S&P
500 and then took a nap.* Today that $200 has grown to ~$750..
.and I never broke a sweat or got my hands dirty.

Hi Bod F,

I've heard _every_ excuse there is from my own grandkids for why they can't
do their chores, where the simple fact is that _none_ of the excuses stand
scrutiny to even the most basic of logic.
o The real reason you don't DIY isn't the "investment" opportunities, but,
o The real reason you don't DIY is simply that you don't like the DIY.

Facts first; then rational adult logical deductions based on those facts.

o If simple fact & basic logic DESTROY your belief system in mere seconds
Q: What does that say about your belief system being wholly imaginary?

I completely understand the logic of what you say, although I also note
that ten years ago was just about the _bottom_ of the stock market, which
had slumped to that point in a way that had not happened since about 1929,
so the fact is that around ten years ago was an anomaly of sorts, where
that "starting point" date can be cherry picked by people selling you
375%-gain investment funds for the next fifty to hundred years to come,
since that's a classic cherry picking approach for false logic.

Even without that cherry-picked stock market crash starting point, the huge
logical issue with the stock-market example is that your argument equally
applies to _all_ DIY jobs you can think of.

While your logic holds true, it _equally_ applies to _every_ DIY job.

For example, your logic applies to that last brake job you did, and that
last cooling system overall, and that last spark plug replacement, and even
that last oil change you did, etc.

Don't get me wrong, if you actually enjoy wrestling old
dirty tires, knock yourself out but I'll stick to more
enjoyable hobbies.

FACTS first; then adult rational logic based on those facts...
o If simple fact & basic logic DESTROY your belief system in mere seconds
Q: What does that say about your belief system being wholly imaginary?

Worse than the fact your logic is irrespective of the DIY job, I can easily
_reverse_ your logic, and come up with a _better_ set of logic, that argues
you would have had _more_ money now, had you done your tires DIY then.

For example, there's a sale right now on Simple Tire tires:
https://simpletire.com/tire-deals

The sale is 10% off on all Toyo, Sumitomo, Hancook, Nitto, Nexen, etc,
tires, with additional 4-tire-set rebates of $60 to $80 on Bridgesone and
Hancook, Micky Thompson, Dick Cepek, etc., sets of tires, and no tax
charged at the sales origin plus free shipping.

Let's say you purchase 8 tires (one set for each vehicle), where you can
save, oh, let's say easily $400 (i.e., $50 per tire) on just the purchase
alone compared to that same purchase locally, let alone the additional $125
on installation.

That $500 you just saved today by this DIY process would be $1,875 ten
years from now using the same stock-market math you used above.

So you just argued EXACTLY what you _think_ you argued against!
o I simply noticed that your argument is completely illogical

However, if I destroyed your logic - that's now up to you to decide.

As an adult whose tools are FACTs + LOGIC...all I'm saying to you is...
o If simple fact & basic logic DESTROY your belief system in mere seconds
Q: What does that say about your belief system being wholly imaginary?
A: ? your response ?